My triple vaccinated wife and twice vaxxed 15 year old have Covid..I'm POSITIVE too.. took my first test 20 minutes ago.. ;-\

i have both vax shots and got very sick with covid in september right before the sand show. the energy level is a tough one, months after i still get these times where im extremely fatigued i just feel like a zombie, and it will last a few days. was in glamis for new years and i ended up leaving early because i was so fatigued i just wanted to be at home. the stuff lingers for while. even a couple months after i need to leave the gym half way through because i was struggling with breathing. 4 months after and i think the lingering affects are finally going away. i have a friend that is a year out and she is having issues. we were just in glamis last weekend and my friends wife had just gotten over it and she was so wore out she stayed in the trailer most the weekend, didnt even want to sit passenger in one of the cars. 

i was excited to get the vax and got it right when i could, my business deals mainly in medical billing so i used that as a way to get in with the first round of people getting it. after getting covid i am still on the fence about the booster, since i now have both the vax and natural anti bodies. not anti vax obviously just not sure i need the booster and dont want to get sick again as a side affect like i did with the second vax shot. 
If you got the polio vax and then got polio, they would say it didn’t work.  But this amazing shot seems to make it much worse for those that have gotten it and y’all still thinking about more shots.  
 

can you please explain that logic to me.  I just can’t seem to get that thought process.  I am not trying to be a jerk at all.  I am just blown away at this thought process and can not seem to understand it. 
 

 
The numbers say more kids have died from the vax related stuff then Covid.....why would you do it then..... POWER...that is all. 

 
If you got the polio vax and then got polio, they would say it didn’t work.  But this amazing shot seems to make it much worse for those that have gotten it and y’all still thinking about more shots.  
 

can you please explain that logic to me.  I just can’t seem to get that thought process.  I am not trying to be a jerk at all.  I am just blown away at this thought process and can not seem to understand it. 
 
not sure where haveing the vax it makes the illness much worse, there are vax and unvaxed people getting sick but seams to be the majority in the hospital and grave are unvaxed. i know there are exceptions and vaxed people have gone to the hospital and grave. my thought is that if the vax can reduce my chances for either than i will consider it. info on the vax has changed, i was excited to get it back in march of last year. i dont have regrets getting the shot at all. it did not stop me from being getting sick, maybe it helped to keep me out of the hospital or worse. i really dont know. there are studies out there that say having both shots can reduce your chance of hospitalization by alot then add vax and natural antibodies that number goes down even more.  but if it has the chance for helping me then i do consider it. if i had not already had the virus i would have had my booster already. reports coming out about natural immunity being better than the shot are the reason i dont have the booster. im also dont have any underlining conditions, im very healthy 40 yrs old, eat well exercise all the time. that also plays a roll in not getting the booster yet. 

my daughter (10) also got covid, she got it from me. she was sick for about 2 days and then just fine. she does not have any vaccine and i dont really want to give it to her as she has the antibodies and the virus is very mild in children. 

i dont want to start any vax or no vax arguments, you asked my thought process and that is what i gave. 

 
If we NUKE China.. I think we're good.. don't we have submarines.. 10 miles from their coast.. maybe we can wax them before they find the 'button'

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just sayin'

abc

 
Sorry for the sidetrack ABC! Glad the bride is feeling better! And jealous I couldn’t make it to KOH
Yeah.. good trip.. but I think I blew the motor in the '19 .. which I ALREADY blew.. 4 trips ago.. and was replaced with a new crate motor.. 4/5 trips.. then it fries?... has 87 hours on it...  TOTAL!

eff me.

abc

Also, burned my leg at the campfire, no biggie.. 1st degree I think....

 
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not sure where haveing the vax it makes the illness much worse, there are vax and unvaxed people getting sick but seams to be the majority in the hospital and grave are unvaxed. i know there are exceptions and vaxed people have gone to the hospital and grave. my thought is that if the vax can reduce my chances for either than i will consider it. info on the vax has changed, i was excited to get it back in march of last year. i dont have regrets getting the shot at all. it did not stop me from being getting sick, maybe it helped to keep me out of the hospital or worse. i really dont know. there are studies out there that say having both shots can reduce your chance of hospitalization by alot then add vax and natural antibodies that number goes down even more.  but if it has the chance for helping me then i do consider it. if i had not already had the virus i would have had my booster already. reports coming out about natural immunity being better than the shot are the reason i dont have the booster. im also dont have any underlining conditions, im very healthy 40 yrs old, eat well exercise all the time. that also plays a roll in not getting the booster yet. 

my daughter (10) also got covid, she got it from me. she was sick for about 2 days and then just fine. she does not have any vaccine and i dont really want to give it to her as she has the antibodies and the virus is very mild in children. 

i dont want to start any vax or no vax arguments, you asked my thought process and that is what i gave. 
No argument here. I’m not here for that drama stuff.  As stated I just can’t understand the thought process.  This helps me to understand, though I feel like your being swayed and somewhat driven by people that do not have your best interest in mind. 
 

Only time will tell if my and so many other guts were right and the vaxed were mislead and used or if we are wrong and will ultimately pay the price for that.    I pray that it’s neither as I do have a son in the air force that had no choice. 

 
You dont understand it because it makes no sense.

No argument. 

The facts are...there are no facts nor evidence supporting taking the "vax" lessens symptoms. Don't get me started on the evidence which is pushed.

This whole thing is so convoluted and has been since the beginning. Many in the general public, including myself don't believe the numbers, the data, nor the collection methods of this data. Garbage in, garbage out. 

If, and that's a big if, it comes out your (or the media's) statements are true, it should have never been called a vaccine because:

By definition:

"a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease."

Maybe it could be called a therapeutic? I don't know, but I do know it is not a vaccine.

As stated above, when was the last time you have heard of someone who had standard vaccinations getting whooping cough, polio, diphtheria, tetanus, measles, mumps, Hep B..etc etc.

My experience, I have never met a single person infected with any of the above after receiving vaccination.

The flu shot can also go in the same column as the covid shot. Changes too much every year to have any real effect or reliance on it.

Either way vax or unvaxxed should be everyone's personal decision with no repercussions whatsoever.

Edited to add:

Totally anecdotal. A person in my office who I sit within 10 feet of, we both got sick on the same day. She is younger than I, double vaxxed.

She was wiped for an entire week, I was "sick" (as I would define it) for a day.

Did the vax make her more sick?

Did the ivermectin help me?

Did the vitamins I take everyday of the last few years leading up to this help me?

Answer... Nobody Effin knows, and nobody will know for a long time. It's luck of the draw in my opinion.

When I saw my dad with 5+ comorbities beat Covid in a day, at that point I realized none of the information being pedaled is true. And anybody can do great through it, and anybody can also get hammered by it...except of course kids. Seems they just arent affected nearly as much as anybody else.


 There's literally  volumes of facts and evidence that supports the fact that being vaxed , more often than not, reduces symptoms. The reality is that there is not a source in the world that you would trust that does anything but confirm your viewpoint.  

 
If you got the polio vax and then got polio, they would say it didn’t work.  But this amazing shot seems to make it much worse for those that have gotten it and y’all still thinking about more shots.  
 

can you please explain that logic to me.  I just can’t seem to get that thought process.  I am not trying to be a jerk at all.  I am just blown away at this thought process and can not seem to understand it. 
 
  Your statement has no factual basis. Its indisputable that the vast majority of those in the hospital around the country are unvaxed. I never understood the logic of those that will never accept any evidence that doesn't fall in line with there opinion. 

 
  Your statement has no factual basis. Its indisputable that the vast majority of those in the hospital around the country are unvaxed. I never understood the logic of those that will never accept any evidence that doesn't fall in line with there opinion. 
List your source there buddy?  Lol.  It is absolutely disputable by anyone who is willing to actually do research and not just listen to their unbelievably biased news. 

 
Yeah.. good trip.. but I think I blew the motor in the '19 .. which I ALREADY blew.. 4 trips ago.. and was replaced with a new crate motor.. 4/5 trips.. then it fries?... has 87 hours on it...  TOTAL!

eff me.

abc

Also, burned my leg at the campfire, no biggie.. 1st degree I think....
Sucks to hear about the motor.  87 hours is not much.  Be interesting to hear what the mechanic says was the cause of the failure. 

 
Yeah.. good trip.. but I think I blew the motor in the '19 .. which I ALREADY blew.. 4 trips ago.. and was replaced with a new crate motor.. 4/5 trips.. then it fries?... has 87 hours on it...  TOTAL!
Did you have Polaris do the work?  Warranty?

 
List your source there buddy?  Lol.  It is absolutely disputable by anyone who is willing to actually do research and not just listen to their unbelievably biased news. 
Ok buddy. Kind of a waste because you'll only listen to your incredibly biased "news source", but here's a few. FYI, I just copied and pasted the first articles that came up. I could find another 100 but it wouldn't matter cause your minds been made up. Mine hasn't. Unlike a lot of people, I  don't pretend to know anything about this virus. Just trying my best to make an educated decision. 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1256999/number-covid-hospitalizations-canada-by-vaccination-status/

https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Documents/1600/coronavirus/data-tables/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/health/article/Omicron-is-sending-vaccinated-people-to-the-16755204.php

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7034e5.htm

https://time.com/6138566/pandemic-of-unvaccinated/

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/24/cdc-study-shows-unvaccinated-people-are-29-times-more-likely-to-be-hospitalized-with-covid.html

https://theconversation.com/at-my-hospital-over-95-of-covid-19-patients-share-one-thing-in-common-theyre-unvaccinated-166708

https://abcnews.go.com/US/vast-majority-icu-patients-covid-19-unvaccinated-abc/story?id=79128401

https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/coronavirus/see-the-numbers/covid-19-in-virginia/covid-19-cases-by-vaccination-status/

 
Has it end of jan non vaxxed noticed on thurs night felt slightly different fri morn no change went to golf got home definitely feel like I’m getting a cold. Fri night drank few glasses of water through the night sat I rest take a bike ride slow paced around block spend time outside sat night test positive less water but still feels like medium power cold Sunday felt better. By Tuesday test negative feel lot better. Cough still lingered til this past weekend though.  
 

had covid not existed I for sure think it was just a cold. I’ve had worse hangovers.i had covid in august 2020. It felt a lil worse than recent case but not as bad as could be. I considered that my covid vax and recent one my booster. 😱

 
Nobody in my household has gotten Covid yet, we can't figure it out.  Are we being left out????  We haven't stopped doing anything during this entire time.
i was feeling the same way after three weeks in glamis got home had a 102 fever for a day 100 the next and just extremely tired for 2 weeks. that could just be the point its was in the low teens outside and i just spent a lot of time in the dunes. i tested positive my wife and kids all got tested and positive they all had no symptoms didn't even tell the kids they had it. none of us are vaxed btw i know a lot more people that are not vaxed and very few that are vaxed. the people i know that are were basically forced into getting the jab either collage required or jobs that required. the strain that was going around in early jan seemed to be really mild i think 11 in our group wound up getting sick shortly after coming home wash 10 variant 

 
Where are these facts and where is the evidence?

Your post is not very believable using vulnerable arguments such as "more often than not".

Hey Danzio let me throw you $30k for an engine. Could you imagine if they said "more often than not" the engine works?

You are correct in a sense, there are not many sources I trust at this point.

You know why? They have ALL been wrong and lied every step of the way since this entire thing started. 

If you want I can post news articles, statements and memos from 2 years ago to today from the media, the .Gov, and the CDC LITERALLY contradicting facts they originally claimed.

I dont really want to argue but it is disingenuous to make the claim you are making.
 I don't disagree with most of what you're saying. I don't think any of us know the answers, and unfortunately, I honestly don't think there is a news outlet in existence that provides unbiased facts anymore. I watch Tucker (for his opinion)more that anybody, but even he has changed his format to not engage in debate with the other side. His show used to have a couple of Dems on that he would debate each night. No more. Just a one sided discussion. No different than CNN and MSNBC, just a conservative bias instead of liberal. As far as stats. You can look up hospital vaxed vs unvaxed rates  by state. 

 
 There's literally  volumes of facts and evidence that supports the fact that being vaxed , more often than not, reduces symptoms. The reality is that there is not a source in the world that you would trust that does anything but confirm your viewpoint.  
who wrote the volumes the people that manufactured the vax or the government that paid for it or the doctor making money treating it.  to be honest i don't believe anything about covid  unless i see it first hand and i haven't seen anything that would persuade me into getting vax. yes covid is real and can be real bad for some but the vast majority do just fine with their own immune system. 

 
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