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Crusty said:
Long live the I Beam...gonna BroPhy Truck my Ranger FHJ sold me...some day.

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Crusty said:
Long live the I Beam...gonna BroPhy Truck my Ranger FHJ sold me...some day.

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I used to have a 87 Ranger with the 2.9 V6. The trans was built up by Valley Transmission , who back in the day did lots of the Ford race trans transmissions. So they had all the tricks in it, minus the manual valve body. Then I had Tim Lawerence (TLR) who did a bunch of class 7 trucks. We put AutoFab bent beams on the truck, TLR modified radius beams and cross member where you remove the bushings, replace the them with a big uni-ball, then cut the stock bushing to hide the uni-ball and act as a dust boot. This was a racing cheat to get more articulation, and hopefully not get caught! 😂. Then we took the stock spring bucket and cut the rear shock portion off, and boxed in a taller shock mount, to add a 10 inch stroke shock. The front travel was 12 inches. If I moved the shocks to the front of the I-beam I could have got 15. (Now days you would just add a coil over shock. But this truck was also built up like you would with a class 7S truck.

In the rear I had a 8 stack of leaf springs from National Spring. Then TLR built a set of longer shackles that is then flipped up. This allows up to 18 inches of travel. But I did not want to cut up my bed to have shock go through, and because my Ranger had a very cool factory dual fuel tanks, I did not want to cantilever the shocks backwards. So we did the best we could keeping a 10 inch stroke shock under the bed, getting 13 inches of travel. The shocks were a Bilstien shock with TLR’s custom valving. The rear gears were a 4:10 with a true trac gear limited slip differential. The truck was a total sleeper with full metal body. Looked like a 4x4 will a 32 inch tire. Only if you really looked did you see any of the suspension mods. The biggest giveaway was the skid plate tucked under the front bumper to protect the steering and the two off road lights on the factory bumper. We chased allot of Baja races for Jimco in this truck. Used it to finish prerunning the San Felipe 250 when my prerun Baja Bug broke. It was not fast, but it worked really well and shocked allot of people as they saw it going by.


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NIKAL said:
I used to have a 87 Ranger with the 2.9 V6. The trans was built up by Valley Transmission , who back in the day did lots of the Ford race trans transmissions. So they had all the tricks in it, minus the manual valve body. Then I had Tim Lawerence (TLR) who did a bunch of class 7 trucks. We put AutoFab bent beams on the truck, TLR modified radius beams and cross member where you remove the bushings, replace the them with a big uni-ball, then cut the stock bushing to hide the uni-ball and act as a dust boot. This was a racing cheat to get more articulation, and hopefully not get caught! 😂. Then we took the stock spring bucket and cut the rear shock portion off, and boxed in a taller shock mount, to add a 10 inch stroke shock. The front travel was 12 inches. If I moved the shocks to the front of the I-beam I could have got 15. (Now days you would just add a coil over shock. But this truck was also built up like you would with a class 7S truck.

In the rear I had a 8 stack of leaf springs from National Spring. Then TLR built a set of longer shackles that is then flipped up. This allows up to 18 inches of travel. But I did not want to cut up my bed to have shock go through, and because my Ranger had a very cool factory dual fuel tanks, I did not want to cantilever the shocks backwards. So we did the best we could keeping a 10 inch stroke shock under the bed, getting 13 inches of travel. The shocks were a Bilstien shock with TLR’s custom valving. The rear gears were a 4:10 with a true trac gear limited slip differential. The truck was a total sleeper with full metal body. Looked like a 4x4 will a 32 inch tire. Only if you really looked did you see any of the suspension mods. The biggest giveaway was the skid plate tucked under the front bumper to protect the steering and the two off road lights on the factory bumper. We chased allot of Baja races for Jimco in this truck. Used it to finish prerunning the San Felipe 250 when my prerun Baja Bug broke. It was not fast, but it worked really well and shocked allot of people as they saw it going by.


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Sweet setup, that's kinda what we are after with this '93 4.0 V6 2WD.

32s would be easy with the 3.7 gears, but 4.10 and a semi locked rear on 33s would be the best. We also want to keep the metal body and hide suspension...

I'll start a thread on it.

Back to Speed LOL.

Anyone dune theirs with the speed key yet?
 
NIKAL said:
If you want to get technical. It was the right rear tire that was going down or very low on pressure and looks to be pulling off the beadlock. Once that dug into the berm it threw the truck in the air.

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Then the I-beam front suspension which your not going to turn back when at full lock digs in and the tire folds over.
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Then the fact that this truck is using stock designed steering, and not equal length cross over steering & tie rods, the bumpsteer tow change is huge on this truck. The left side tie rod is shorter and naturally pulls the toe in much greater then the right side which still toes in. This is why guys running longer or long travel I beams run a swing set steering system as it allows the tie rods to be equal with the ibeams, pivot in the same plain and reduces the toe change and keeps it equal on both sides.

Also I-beams move in the same direction as a swing axle VW does. So your track width does change as does your contact patch with the ground. This guys truck looks to be running stock bent I-beams too, which does narrow the truck an inch or two per side.

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Just because we are getting technical. This is not a trophy truck or even a full sized truck. It’s a Ranger class 7 style truck.
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Fuck, I was making a joke. Relax.

But hey, go ahead and think crossover steering has anything to do with RG’s “culprit” for the MavR rollover, or that I beams have “worse” track width change than A arms, and not that when shit lands sideways on dirt, it’s usually going over.
 
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Rockwood said:
Fuck, I was making a joke. Relax.

But hey, go ahead and think crossover steering has anything to do with RG’s “culprit” for the MavR rollover, or that I beams have “worse” track width change than A arms, and not that when shit lands sideways on dirt, it’s usually going over.
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I did not think it had anything to do with RG? I thought we were talking about Ford trucks, I-beams and a roll over. Do you have Speed derangement syndrome? Not everything is an about RG. Don’t let him live in your head rent free.

Sorry for talking trucks & Rangers on this shit show of a thread about Speed UTV.
 
NIKAL said:
I did not think it had anything to do with RG? I thought we were talking about Ford trucks, I-beams and a roll over. Do you have Speed derangement syndrome? Not everything is an about RG. Don’t let him live in your head rent free.

Sorry for talking trucks & Rangers on this shit show of a thread about Speed UTV.
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Dude lands a jump sideways and rolls, RG brings up track width change again.

https://glamisdunes.com/threads/speed-utv.124/post-237607

It literally happened yesterday.

 
I rarely work on my cars unless I absolutely have too. After my last ride I knew the belt in my speed was just done.. lol. To the point that at one point during a 80’ish mph section I saw little tufts of belt material fly around in the cab.. I babied it on the road to get it home.

Well I’ve been putting it off for a week but last night my son and I decided to get it done.

I was extremely impressed with how drama free it was to change. Granted it isn’t something I’d want to do out in the dirt but it’s a lot easier than the other cars I have owned.

This belt is the same belt I ran down in Mexico, then Glamis, then desert bash and a host of other rides. I don’t have an exact number but probably 700’ish miles? At the end of desert bash I jumped off the course and ran the car through (like I said earlier) a really fast section doing between 70-85’ish mph for awhile and the belt temps got up pretty good. 230-240’ish.. the belt just kinda started coming apart.

My 12 year old was able to do just about all of it except spreading the clutches apart with the pry bar..

I have no idea why the outside of the belt looks like that on one side? That section of the belt doesn’t really touch anything that I can see?

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There was quite a bit of material laying around though in and around the case.. weirdly a lot of it was on the skid plate in front of the housing? I grabbed some of it and threw it on the tire

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So curious. Early on somewhere there were 1000s and 1000s of orders. Curious how many cars have now been delivered? How many still waiting? How many bailed?
 
onanysunday said:
So curious. Early on somewhere there were 1000s and 1000s of orders. Curious how many cars have now been delivered? How many still waiting? How many bailed?
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I did see many more cars in the dunes last week, so some are being delivered. I also got to follow Max Gordon in the dunes, his car booked and he can drive the snot out of it.
 
RiverDave said:
I rarely work on my cars unless I absolutely have too. After my last ride I knew the belt in my speed was just done.. lol. To the point that at one point during a 80’ish mph section I saw little tufts of belt material fly around in the cab.. I babied it on the road to get it home.

Well I’ve been putting it off for a week but last night my son and I decided to get it done.

I was extremely impressed with how drama free it was to change. Granted it isn’t something I’d want to do out in the dirt but it’s a lot easier than the other cars I have owned.

This belt is the same belt I ran down in Mexico, then Glamis, then desert bash and a host of other rides. I don’t have an exact number but probably 700’ish miles? At the end of desert bash I jumped off the course and ran the car through (like I said earlier) a really fast section doing between 70-85’ish mph for awhile and the belt temps got up pretty good. 230-240’ish.. the belt just kinda started coming apart.

My 12 year old was able to do just about all of it except spreading the clutches apart with the pry bar..

I have no idea why the outside of the belt looks like that on one side? That section of the belt doesn’t really touch anything that I can see?

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You were lucky the belt lasted on the highway. That belt was another 100 yards from being into multiple pieces.

Speed does not have a tool that spreads secondary sheaves so you can change the belt?

Belt changes are easy as long as strands of the belt don't get wrapped up in the clutches.
 
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Sand Shark said:
You were lucky the belt lasted on the highway. That belt was another 100 yards from being into multiple pieces.

Speed does not have a tool that spreads secondary sheaves so you can change the belt?

Belt changes are easy as long as stands of the belt don't get wrapped up in the clutches.
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This ^^^
 
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