I have never promised my wife a car on the condition that she might not ever see it nor her deposit let alone additional accessory money due to a non-refundable deposit clause.
I think you are missing the point. I don't think anyone is complaining about the deposit. It is about the accessories and paying for them and still not having a car a few years later. When all those people paid a few years ago there was no clause about it being non-refundable or custom parts.
I have yet to witness anyone simply man up regarding the deposit let alone the accessories and have probably missed someone else on the net suggest both. My bad.
Again, I am at fault here. I come from a generation of self responsible risk takers. We do not throw good money after bad knowing full well that it was a long shot to begin with (at best). The above commentary was overheard from the wife of a 2024 SPEED accessory moaner ranting like Lorena Bobbitt after she just got off the phone with her grandmother while clutching a frying pan.
It was either going to go four ways: Some win, all win, some lose. all lose. Why the X, Y and Z generations apparently have to be told this regarding a "non-refundable deposit" deal is beyond me..yet again..it's a lot easier to shoot the messenger.
...yeah I somehow knew this was coming (I hope that 'DEI' doesn't get mentioned next or I'm out).
He's an investor no different than any other that they are all likely to run across tomorrow. We wouldn't even be hearing from these guys out of pure embarrassment in the old days. If it wasn't for them whipping up their wives/friends in to a frenzy to deflect said embarrassment and good money after bad blunders this would be over.
Concerned? Ask for their money back?
While you feel this way and ended up correct...I have yet to witness anyone simply man up regarding the deposit let alone the accessories and have probably missed someone else on the net suggest both. My bad.
Again, I am at fault here. I come from a generation of self responsible risk takers. We do not throw good money after bad knowing full well that it was a long shot to begin with (at best). The above commentary was overheard from the wife of a 2024 SPEED accessory moaner ranting like Lorena Bobbitt after she just got off the phone with her grandmother while clutching a frying pan.
It was either going to go four ways: Some win, all win, some lose. all lose. Why the X, Y and Z generations apparently have to be told this regarding a "non-refundable deposit" deal is beyond me..yet again..it's a lot easier to shoot the messenger.
...yeah I somehow knew this was coming (I hope that 'DEI' doesn't get mentioned next or I'm out).
He's an investor no different than any other that they are all likely to run across tomorrow. We wouldn't even be hearing from these guys out of pure embarrassment in the old days. If it wasn't for them whipping up their wives/friends in to a frenzy to deflect said embarrassment and good money after bad blunders this would be over.
Concerned? Ask for their money back?
I'd have been concerned 5 years ago that there was a very distinct possibility that my family's money wouldn't be coming back and that bitching to everyone 5 years later probably would not be a good look for me given the circumstances of the investment..'ie.'.this aint a "tiddlywinks with Robby".good 'ol boys club.
I want to thank all who posted as this has become my new favorite example of just how far 'victimhood' has indeed permeated our society.
By the way?
Don't let your wives read this.
I believe that would be 'Buffy' and 'Biff' demanding these refunds.
Yeah, most reading this would come to both conclusions themselves
This is the 'Big Boy' world of investing. Anyone can say anything that they please and this fantasy of "taking someone's word for it" is just that. Would Kickstarter have ever launched all those products if there were "consequences" from all those smart and/or stupid enough to invest in the first place?
Again, we have whole generations of young people now who expect that every single thing that they touch should turn in to rainbows and lollipops. You invested with a guy who flat out told you that not getting your money back was a distinct possibility. That he had to tell you this (non-refundable deposits) should have been your first clue that you were indeed waaaaaaayyyyyyy in over your heads to begin with,
Are you kidding me? Your money is G-O-N-E. Get over it.I wish that I could have witnessed all you guys crying and stomping your collective feet every time that you did not get your way as children.
It WAS a mistake...and no, just because you're all bitching and moaning now like little children who dropped their lollipop...he's not paying you a dime nor should he.
I'm just flabbergasted that any of them (or their buddies) exhibit so little shame for even buying in to this all in the first place let alone stomping their feet now.
It was definitely DEI..
Yes, it is the big boy world of "investing". This isn't taking someone's word for it, it's entering into a contract for XYZ dollars in exchange for ABC product. That didn't pan out. Should feelings be hurt that it didn't? Nope. Should they expect to just eat it and donate to the almighty Robbeth Gordon? Fuck to the no. Also, this wasn't on Kickstarter, this was on a company page making statements in writing on delivery dates. If you paid a deposit after the second time he missed a "deliveries soon" statement, sure, you should know better.
)The money isn't gone. Yet. If the company has completely folded, then yep, the money is gone. Last I checked, Speed is still in business, still taking deposits, still delivering (slowly) vehicles, and still operating facilities, so that money isn't gone.
Bwahahaha. I was raised by a ruthless Korean woman and a Master Sergeant. No way I'm giving them a reason to give me something to cry about.
Dumb. Sword cuts both ways. Lies should always have consequences and stupid promises should always hurt. That's a low-T response through and through.
To compare Bernie Madoff to Robbie Gordon is...not worth replying to.
Sure it is. There are some similarities for sure. Obviously Bernie was much better at the game, but Robbie's only been doing this for a couple of years.
I have yet to witness anyone simply man up regarding the deposit let alone the accessories and have probably missed someone else on the net suggest both. My bad.
Again, I am at fault here. I come from a generation of self responsible risk takers. We do not throw good money after bad knowing full well that it was a long shot to begin with (at best). The above commentary was overheard from the wife of a 2024 SPEED accessory moaner ranting like Lorena Bobbitt after she just got off the phone with her grandmother while clutching a frying pan.
It was either going to go four ways: Some win, all win, some lose. all lose. Why the X, Y and Z generations apparently have to be told this regarding a "non-refundable deposit" deal is beyond me..yet again..it's a lot easier to shoot the messenger.
...yeah I somehow knew this was coming (I hope that 'DEI' doesn't get mentioned next or I'm out).
He's an investor no different than any other that they are all likely to run across tomorrow. We wouldn't even be hearing from these guys out of pure embarrassment in the old days. If it wasn't for them whipping up their wives/friends in to a frenzy to deflect said embarrassment and good money after bad blunders this would be over.
Concerned? Ask for their money back?
I'd have been concerned 5 years ago that there was a very distinct possibility that my family's money wouldn't be coming back and that bitching to everyone 5 years later probably would not be a good look for me given the circumstances of the investment..'ie.'.this aint a "tiddlywinks with Robby".good 'ol boys club.
I want to thank all who posted as this has become my new favorite example of just how far 'victimhood' has indeed permeated our society.
By the way?
Don't let your wives read this.
Read the fine or not so much fine print (actually larger than life) on that (cough) 'contract':
If it was Buff he would be going back through this thread and pointing out everything he predicted that was correct and have a big old plate of crow for LOTD.
You sir are correct!
That's a deep pull 10/10 . ..
