Speed UTV

LegitDuner said:
Any cliff notes? I saw almost an hour long and clicked away ..
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He seemed a little bummed that is car ended up on the trailer and he could not do a review of his car.  He said that it was his impressions of the car based off the little time he had in his and driving Todd's car.

Odd thing he mentioned is the shifting into 4wd on the car.  It is not like all the other sport SXSs where you hit a button.  He had to have RG show him how to shift it into 4wd.   

He liked the overall gearing of the car.  Said the gears had a wider range before you need to go from low to high.  He liked that you can shift from high to low or low to high gear on the fly whereas in all other SXSs you have to stop (I agree that would be a nice feature). Commented the power delivery is smooth and great for when you are going slow over rock sections or technical sections.  Mentioned his X3 is more punchy, which is true.   

He went with the wide and high seats in his car and Todd's car I believe had the standard size seats.  Said he could feel the seats move/flex and mentioned something about how they are mounted could better.  For him the he is adding the air cushion as he was getting a little sore after the longer day ride. 

Suspension he felt was great in the slow speed chop and chatter (not sure if this was his car or Todd's).  Talked about the shocks having a wider range.   Seemed concern about springs sagging as he mentioned some of the other cars looked low.  He liked the way the car handled.

He did discuss some of the issues with the other cars including one not mentioned previously that had a charge tube falling off (easy fix).   All the owners mentioned loose latching on the tailgate.  There were some other small things than can be addressed.

He was upbeat about RG and company addressing the issues and getting the cars right.  

I be interested to hear more from him once he gets his car back and can take it out on his own.  He has a X3 and Pro R he can do a good comparison.

Bottom line is Speed has some QC issues that need to be addressed.  Really will not know how these hold up until the owner are set free to drive them how they want.     

 
Sand Shark said:
He seemed a little bummed that is car ended up on the trailer and he could not do a review of his car.  He said that it was his impressions of the car based off the little time he had in his and driving Todd's car.

Odd thing he mentioned is the shifting into 4wd on the car.  It is not like all the other sport SXSs where you hit a button.  He had to have RG show him how to shift it into 4wd.   

He liked the overall gearing of the car.  Said the gears had a wider range before you need to go from low to high.  He liked that you can shift from high to low or low to high gear on the fly whereas in all other SXSs you have to stop (I agree that would be a nice feature). Commented the power delivery is smooth and great for when you are going slow over rock sections or technical sections.  Mentioned his X3 is more punchy, which is true.   

He went with the wide and high seats in his car and Todd's car I believe had the standard size seats.  Said he could feel the seats move/flex and mentioned something about how they are mounted could better.  For him the he is adding the air cushion as he was getting a little sore after the longer day ride. 

Suspension he felt was great in the slow speed chop and chatter (not sure if this was his car or Todd's).  Talked about the shocks having a wider range.   Seemed concern about springs sagging as he mentioned some of the other cars looked low.  He liked the way the car handled.

He did discuss some of the issues with the other cars including one not mentioned previously that had a charge tube falling off (easy fix).   All the owners mentioned loose latching on the tailgate.  There were some other small things than can be addressed.

He was upbeat about RG and company addressing the issues and getting the cars right.  

I be interested to hear more from him once he gets his car back and can take it out on his own.  He has a X3 and Pro R he can do a good comparison.

Bottom line is Speed has some QC issues that need to be addressed.  Really will not know how these hold up until the owner are set free to drive them how they want.     
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Your notes are spot on from what I watched last night. Thank you for taking the time to post this.

One thing I took from his post that needs to be asked. Switching into 4 wheel drive. Seems like it needs to be done on the move and not from a stopped situation. Not sure on this and with Glamis being a big topic for use, not sure how one would be able to use the 4 wheel drive to get unstuck if needed.

 
Grease Monkey said:
Your notes are spot on from what I watched last night. Thank you for taking the time to post this.

One thing I took from his post that needs to be asked. Switching into 4 wheel drive. Seems like it needs to be done on the move and not from a stopped situation. Not sure on this and with Glamis being a big topic for use, not sure how one would be able to use the 4 wheel drive to get unstuck if needed.
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I always run in 4wd in my SXS unless I am on the pavement.   I am not sure why people run in 2wd in the dunes.  You can whip the ass end around in 4wd and have the luxury of the front tires helping pull through the turn.

 
Sand Shark said:
I always run in 4wd in my SXS unless I am on the pavement.   I am not sure why people run in 2wd in the dunes.  You can whip the ass end around in 4wd and have the luxury of the front tires helping pull through the turn.
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With the evolution in the sxs game. More HP, more suspension, Longer and wider wheel base. Is 4x4 going to be as important as it once was in these machines?  I've talked to a few sxs owners with HP mods. They are not using 4wd and one has even removed the front diff and axles.  Prob a better question in a topic of its own.

 
Sand Shark said:
Crazy how the off-road stuff is marked up way more. 
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No sheeyit.  A Wilwood big brake kit for a Mustang is $3200...

And that's 14" vented/isolated rotors with aluminum hats and monster AERO6 forged calipers. 

But...  Jamar sells a centerboard brake kit with 934 flange for the same price, front kits with bearings are $1k less.  These are buggy parts, so super low rate of production.  Maybe they're going to have to reset pricing...  Or maybe you SxS people are just gonna swipe anyway... :biggrin:

Grease Monkey said:
Your notes are spot on from what I watched last night. Thank you for taking the time to post this.

One thing I took from his post that needs to be asked. Switching into 4 wheel drive. Seems like it needs to be done on the move and not from a stopped situation. Not sure on this and with Glamis being a big topic for use, not sure how one would be able to use the 4 wheel drive to get unstuck if needed.
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I always dune the X3 in 2WD.  If I screw up, I stop before it's too late, shift into 4WD, then drive downhill.  If it's not too terrible a hill to climb, it'll even fill it's own holes and lift the car out if you're not too jiggy with the throttle.

 
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Grease Monkey said:
With the evolution in the sxs game. More HP, more suspension, Longer and wider wheel base. Is 4x4 going to be as important as it once was in these machines?  I've talked to a few sxs owners with HP mods. They are not using 4wd and one has even removed the front diff and axles.  Prob a better question in a topic of its own.
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There is a reason the top trophy truck teams have switched to an awd Mason Truck or other Awd trophy truck.  The handling/turning is vastly improved.   None of the SXSs are true 4wd unless you are slow crawling and the diff is locked.  There are quasi awd systems.  The more hp the more I would want 4wd/awd.   

 
Sand Shark said:
I always run in 4wd in my SXS unless I am on the pavement.   I am not sure why people run in 2wd in the dunes.  You can whip the ass end around in 4wd and have the luxury of the front tires helping pull through the turn.
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I came from driving many sand cars in the dunes and running my SxS in 2WD gives me the driving experience closer to the sand car. 
 

 
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