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[SxS]

Negative reviews?

Like this one?

SCORE Baja 500 Pro UTV NA Class Win for Honda Talon Factory Off Road Racing - race-deZert.com

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Or maybe this one?

Honda Off-Road Factory Racing Team Survives the Historic 56th SCORE Baja 1000

Honda Factory Off-Road Racing Team Survives The Historic 56th SCORE Baja 1000 La Paz, Baja California Sur The 2023 edition of the SCORE Baja 1000 went down in history as the second longest race course with 1310.94-miles, and for the first time, running from La Paz to Ensenada, up the Baja...

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I debated mentioning the Talon's racing success yet I am just not a believer in these race cars resembling anything that is advertised nor which the public receives. That horse left the barn years ago involving racing of all types with tech inspections at literally all levels of our own sport not only prohibitively expensive but resultantly laughable at best.
Your original post mentioned that the Talon was the only machine that made sense price-wise for you.
The amount of money put in to the results that you are quoting above do not reflect purely the expense of race teams everywhere simply fielding bone stock crate cars day in and day out. Ditto for the expense of tearing in to every critical piece on that car; sending it out to (?) for 21st century treatments of every manner and reassembling same as (cough) 'stock'. If you have enough to do it like the Honda Team does then again...we are not talking nor was I about the multitude of problems that owners have experienced with this car from the very beginning. Still a great car. Just a car not up to Honda quasi-race-standards as compared with most everything else that they've released over the years by far.
Designs certainly help yet old fashioned bending of the rules and a ton of support money perpetually keep these major manufacturers on the podium year after year. This success is often mixed in with a whole lotta luck given the manner in which these races play out and the rules themselves. Being able to afford quality drivers to operate within those rules doesn't hurt either.

 

[Crusty]

Negative reviews?

Like this one?

SCORE Baja 500 Pro UTV NA Class Win for Honda Talon Factory Off Road Racing - race-deZert.com

Providing a Community Platform to Connect Off-Road Racers to Share Off-Road Racing Ideas Securely, Safely and Authentically

www.race-dezert.com

Or maybe this one?

Honda Off-Road Factory Racing Team Survives the Historic 56th SCORE Baja 1000

Honda Factory Off-Road Racing Team Survives The Historic 56th SCORE Baja 1000 La Paz, Baja California Sur The 2023 edition of the SCORE Baja 1000 went down in history as the second longest race course with 1310.94-miles, and for the first time, running from La Paz to Ensenada, up the Baja...

www.race-dezert.com

 

[SxS]

If I could pick a car that had been modified *at no expense spared* at this point in time...the above would be high on the list.

 

[rivermobster]

I had made up my mind to buy another buggy upon returning to the area but we ran across so many SxS's out cruising around on our trip across the country that I really took a deeper look at them. The versatility they offer is hard to beat; you can just take the things damn near anywhere. $30-40k+ was a tough pill to swallow until I drove one and discovered what you get for the money is pretty damn impressive. The Dynamix suspension has blown me away and the power stock is pretty good (I'd like about 50 more HP at this weight but it is still putting a smile on my face). The sand will certainly sap some of that but I went conservative with the tires (33" SS360s to stay as close to stock as possible) to mitigate some of that. I didn't think Polaris was going to check all the boxes for me but it was what came out on top across the board for me.

They have Definitely come a long way since the old golf cart days! The suspension on even the bone stock CanAm's are impressive.

You absolutely cannot beat em in the dirt, that's for sure.

The sand?

I'm gonna need @ChEFF to take me for a ride in his someday.

 

[rivermobster]

I debated mentioning the Talon's racing success yet I am just not a believer in these race cars resembling anything that is advertised nor which the public receives. That horse left the barn years ago involving racing of all types with tech inspections at literally all levels of our own sport not only prohibitively expensive but resultantly laughable at best.
Your original post mentioned that the Talon was the only machine that made sense price-wise for you.
The amount of money put in to the results that you are quoting above do not reflect purely the expense of race teams everywhere simply fielding bone stock crate cars day in and day out. Ditto for the expense of tearing in to every critical piece on that car; sending it out to (?) for 21st century treatments of every manner and reassembling same as (cough) 'stock'. If you have enough to do it like the Honda Team does then again...we are not talking nor was I about the multitude of problems that owners have experienced with this car from the very beginning. Still a great car. Just a car not up to Honda quasi-race-standards as compared with most everything else that they've released over the years by far.
Designs certainly help yet old fashioned bending of the rules and a ton of support money perpetually keep these major manufacturers on the podium year after year. This success is often mixed in with a whole lotta luck given the manner in which these races play out and the rules themselves. Being able to afford quality drivers to operate within those rules doesn't hurt either.

I'm friends with the co-driver in the baja 1000 winning car.

He's the first one to say the power is lathargic.

Personally, I'd take dependability over Speed any ol day.

(See what I did there?)

 

[SxS]

I'm friends with the co-driver in the baja 1000 winning car.

He's the first one to say the power is lathargic.

Personally, I'd take dependability over Speed any ol day.

(See what I did there?)

Did too..I would take a N/A car (Honda was obviously smart going that route in these races) with 'less' power any day of the week. Most would admit the sane privately as they frankly don't have or cannot afford a car that would ever hold up (safely) at a fraction of what that Honda is capable of anyways.
I would also wager that many would be unintentionally fibbing a bit like me in saying that it would be but "high" on their list of dream cars in any environment.

 

[rivermobster]

Did too..I would take a N/A car (Honda was obviously smart going that route in these races) with 'less' power any day of the week. Most would admit the sane privately as they frankly don't have or cannot afford a car that would ever hold up (safely) at a fraction of what that Honda is capable of anyways.
I would also wager that many would be unintentionally fibbing a bit like me in saying that it would be but "high" on their list of dream cars in any environment.

Right?

@RiverDave bags on me Constantly for wanting the Talon.

Zero fucks given by me.

 

[SxS]

It's hard for me to believe that I would pick that car even half ass race ready over all others simply for the DCT.
I might change my mind if I ever experienced a race ready car yet I've never ran across anything that beats it on paper in a SxS let alone what fun one would expect to have ripping it.

 

[URCLEVER]

I got myself a new Mav R , it was at SSSS at the Toys For Big boys Booth. Glad to see it will be done shortly.