So. Is everyone ok over here???

TheSPAINishLover said:
I challenged that claim on several forums, reasonably.

"Put climate change aside. Put aside the freak winds and other related conditions. I strongly believe that the result of severely poor planning and lack of resources exponentially contributed to the loss of life and property because strategic planning and resource allocation would've have mitigated loss of life and property loss, to a highly measurable and definitive extent."

Responses: "You don't know anything." "You don't get it." "Typically MAGA blaming politics."...etc., etc., etc. You get it.
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www.americaunwon.com

Why Los Angeles Is Burning

Rural California tried to warn you.
www.americaunwon.com www.americaunwon.com

This article sums it up perfectly. They’re correct on one front: none of this is natural, it’s entirely manmade.

It just has nothing to do with burning gasoline.
 
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So everybody's phone at work just blew up and said we need to evacuate. Problem is I'm in Hawthorne and there is no fire anywhere near us . . .
 
South Bay said:
So everybody's phone at work just blew up and said we need to evacuate. Problem is I'm in Hawthorne and there is no fire anywhere near us . . .
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So apparently this went out to most of LA County and was issued "in error". Can't make this shit up . . .
 
madweazl said:
Better than not getting anything I suppose.
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In East County San Diego, we get them every time there’s a fire sorta nearby. At first, we obeyed. Then we found out the hard way that we couldn’t come back for any reason until the fire was completely under control.

I don’t even recycle chones when backpacking in the wilderness. Never again. I’m not leaving until I feel the heat. :ROFLMAO:
 
Rockwood said:
www.americaunwon.com

Why Los Angeles Is Burning

Rural California tried to warn you.
www.americaunwon.com www.americaunwon.com

This article sums it up perfectly. They’re correct on one front: none of this is natural, it’s entirely manmade.

It just has nothing to do with burning gasoline.
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A bit off topic, but the reference to the spotted owl highlights the power and incompetence of the government and their enviromentalist allies. They blamed logging for the diminished number of spotted owls. It almost killed the logging industry and communities that relied on logging. In recent years they discovered that barred owls were killing the spotted owls and logging had a negligible effect on the spotted owl. Now they are killing barred owls to save the spotted owls. Meanwhile, the logging industry and communities never fully recovered from this cluster fuck the enviromentalist created!
 
THD said:
A bit off topic, but the reference to the spotted owl highlights the power and incompetence of the government and their enviromentalist allies. They blamed logging for the diminished number of spotted owls. It almost killed the logging industry and communities that relied on logging. In recent years they discovered that barred owls were killing the spotted owls and logging had a negligible effect on the spotted owl. Now they are killing barred owls to save the spotted owls. Meanwhile, the logging industry and communities never fully recovered from this cluster fuck the enviromentalist created!
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They’re also paving over square miles of desert tortoise habitat for giant solar farms near Vegas.

The tortoises are going to be released back in the same panel-infested wasteland after they’re done and expected to just deal with it.

Off-roaders driving on established trails in the desert where desert tortoises might be? Evil.

Tens of thousands of acres of desert tortoise habitat paved flat and panels installed? Green.
 
Rockwood said:
In East County San Diego, we get them every time there’s a fire sorta nearby. At first, we obeyed. Then we found out the hard way that we couldn’t come back for any reason until the fire was completely under control.

I don’t even recycle chones when backpacking in the wilderness. Never again. I’m not leaving until I feel the heat. :ROFLMAO:
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Exactly. I’m not abandoning my house because my phone tells me to.
 
I wish everyone would push the same questions to the liberals in CA...Why is there 20+ BILLION dollars missing for homeless and we have 2...that's right TWO friggen Super Scoopers? THAT WE DON'T EVEN OWN!. Why doesn't CA have a FLEET Of those planes...with what we pay in taxes... Time to cut off the HOMELESS, the Illegals, the LAZY and the Environmentalists from the trough............
 
Realbadlarry said:
I wish everyone would push the same questions to the liberals in CA...Why is there 20+ BILLION dollars missing for homeless and we have 2...that's right TWO friggen Super Scoopers? THAT WE DON'T EVEN OWN!. Why doesn't CA have a FLEET Of those planes...with what we pay in taxes... Time to cut off the HOMELESS, the Illegals, the LAZY and the Environmentalists from the trough............
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The Canadians lease then during the fire season to the county. Come with the pilots and mechanics to fix them. A lot cheaper to lease them out for the 3-4 months they are needed. They have been here since August.
 
Rockwood said:
They’re also paving over square miles of desert tortoise habitat for giant solar farms near Vegas.

The tortoises are going to be released back in the same panel-infested wasteland after they’re done and expected to just deal with it.

Off-roaders driving on established trails in the desert where desert tortoises might be? Evil.

Tens of thousands of acres of desert tortoise habitat paved flat and panels installed? Green.
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Maybe this administration will take on revamping the Environmental Protection Act and this silliness will stop.
 
Sand Shark said:
The Canadians lease then during the fire season to the county. Come with the pilots and mechanics to fix them. A lot cheaper to lease them out for the 3-4 months they are needed. They have been here since August.
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With the money that is wasted in this STATE, there is ZERO reason we don't have a fleet of 10-12 of those....there is a private company in Montana that has at least 6 of them. Cheaper doesn't matter when thousands of homes are burning down. WE pay 250k for batallion cheif suburbans....money is not the point here. Protecting the people is.
 
Realbadlarry said:
With the money that is wasted in this STATE, there is ZERO reason we don't have a fleet of 10-12 of those....there is a private company in Montana that has at least 6 of them. Cheaper doesn't matter when thousands of homes are burning down. WE pay 250k for batallion cheif suburbans....money is not the point here. Protecting the people is.
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Problem there is they’ll use them…

And even more kindling will pile up for the next windstorm and burn even hotter. Fire is a natural part of the ecosystem.

www.nytimes.com

Opinion | To Help Prevent the Next Big Wildfire, Let the Forest Burn (Published 2018)

California needs to abandon the idea that trees are always worth saving and that fire is always a threat. Instead, it should let modest wildfires burn.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
 
Realbadlarry said:
Agree, but Proper Forest wildland management is KEY..........but part of the solution.
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Yep, and those airplanes need to be justified annually, not every 3-5 years when La Nina follows 2+ years of El Nino. They'll use them to put out every fire that pops up. Half acre bum fire just after 2 weeks of rain near a river? Yep. Tankers and helicopters. I literally saw this happen down here.
 
Realbadlarry said:
With the money that is wasted in this STATE, there is ZERO reason we don't have a fleet of 10-12 of those....there is a private company in Montana that has at least 6 of them. Cheaper doesn't matter when thousands of homes are burning down. WE pay 250k for batallion cheif suburbans....money is not the point here. Protecting the people is.
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The state has a fleet of air tankers and helicopters and the super scoopers are in addition to the fleet the state owns. The super scooper is not the only air water dropping plane used to fight the fires.
 
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