IMO nato is chit, the UN is also chit... coming soon to a country near you, the people of the world are getting sick and tired of the military industrial complex and they are the embodiment of both. They do not support peace on any level, if they did they would negotiate instead of making threats. It's all about the money they make off these wars and how much they can soak America for. Unfortunately for us Trump was the 1st to stand against their pressure and start to reduce the support coming from us. That all ended as soon as he was ousted. I'm interested to see what happens over there, but I'd honestly be surprised if Putin was put out to pasture, and as far as Ukraine goes they're gov is as much if not more corrupt than ours. Hell,they paid the Boden's for craps sake.