Any business owners here suffering with $7/g fuel prices?

[L.R.S.]

My son filled the 100 gallon aux tank today in Pecos, TX for $5.63/gallon.  He did see some smaller stations at $5.19 but he wasn't comfortable pulling in with the 5th wheel so he's sticking to truck stops.  He said most truck stops are around $5.49.

He has 200 more miles to Lindale, TX to drop off this 5th wheel then he dead heads 275 miles to Tulsa, OK to pick up the next 5th wheel, a brand new 45' headed to a small town outside Bend, OR.

 

[rampster]

Curious on what kind of MPG he is getting?

 

[L.R.S.]

Curious on what kind of MPG he is getting?

We are logging all miles and fuel so we can calculate MPGs after the trip. 



Dropped this off in Lindale, TX yesterday and drive up to Tulsa, OK to pick up the next one.



This brand new 43' is going to Bend, OR. But he's stsying at a family friend's ranch in Oklahoma for a couple days before getting back on the road.

 

[Rorschach]

My son filled the 100 gallon aux tank today in Pecos, TX for $5.63/gallon.  He did see some smaller stations at $5.19 but he wasn't comfortable pulling in with the 5th wheel so he's sticking to truck stops.  He said most truck stops are around $5.49.

He has 200 more miles to Lindale, TX to drop off this 5th wheel then he dead heads 275 miles to Tulsa, OK to pick up the next 5th wheel, a brand new 45' headed to a small town outside Bend, OR.

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I do the opposite with the semi. I pull into the little gas stations all the time to buy at a lower price. If I can save $.20-.30 a gallon or more I'm pulling in. If it looks like I can't get the trailer in then I'll drop it nearby or on the street. Truckstops usually gouge you pretty bad compared to the smaller stations

 

[L.R.S.]

I do the opposite with the semi. I pull into the little gas stations all the time to buy at a lower price. If I can save $.20-.30 a gallon or more I'm pulling in. If it looks like I can't get the trailer in then I'll drop it nearby or on the street. Truckstops usually gouge you pretty bad compared to the smaller stations

If it was our trailer we'd do the same. Not worth risking damage to a client's trailer. And honestly $20-$30 savings for 100 gallon fill up isn't worth the time it takes to drop/hookup.

 

[zilla68]

I do the opposite with the semi. I pull into the little gas stations all the time to buy at a lower price. If I can save $.20-.30 a gallon or more I'm pulling in. If it looks like I can't get the trailer in then I'll drop it nearby or on the street. Truckstops usually gouge you pretty bad compared to the smaller stations

LOVES is the highest place around anymore, on cue has huge islands and cheaper fuel

 

[L.R.S.]

LOVES is the highest place around anymore, on cue has huge islands and cheaper fuel

Diesel is $6.89 near my house so $5.63 is winning. 

Also, really appreciate the offer to store the 5th wheel at your storage. He picked it up at 4pm yesterday and headed straight to Duncan, OK to get a couple days R&R before heading to Kansas then Oregon. Went to a rodeo last night and he's been on a pontoon boat all day today. Kinda jealous to be honest.

 

[Kraut_n_Rice]

I do the opposite with the semi. I pull into the little gas stations all the time to buy at a lower price. If I can save $.20-.30 a gallon or more I'm pulling in. If it looks like I can't get the trailer in then I'll drop it nearby or on the street. Truckstops usually gouge you pretty bad compared to the smaller stations

You're only saving the $.18 tax the truck stops charge at the big pumps.  Pretty sure there is a regulation against using the "regular" diesel pumps for OTR use.  Whatever..

 

[Rorschach]

You're only saving the $.18 tax the truck stops charge at the big pumps.  Pretty sure there is a regulation against using the "regular" diesel pumps for OTR use.  Whatever..

The diesel you buy at the small stations is the same as the diesel you buy at the truck stop. Not sure why you'd think there was a difference. I'm not aware of any regulations restricting me from using fuel from the "regular" pump in my truck. Like I said if it's a $.20 per gallon savings or more then I'm filling at the smaller station. I filled up in Lubbock last week at the HEB for $4.92 a gallon. The cheapest truck stop was $5.30. that's a little more than $.18. $.38 x 200 gallons is  76 bucks. Add to that the 3% cash back on my credit card and the savings add up to about $100. Well worth the extra 20-30 minutes.

 

[Kraut_n_Rice]

The diesel you buy at the small stations is the same as the diesel you buy at the truck stop. Not sure why you'd think there was a difference. I'm not aware of any regulations restricting me from using fuel from the "regular" pump in my truck. Like I said if it's a $.20 per gallon savings or more then I'm filling at the smaller station. I filled up in Lubbock last week at the HEB for $4.92 a gallon. The cheapest truck stop was $5.30. that's a little more than $.18. $.38 x 200 gallons is  76 bucks. Add to that the 3% cash back on my credit card and the savings add up to about $100. Well worth the extra 20-30 minutes.

If you notice how the diesel prices on the signs at truck stop(Loves,etc)will toggle back and forth a price, it's the tax difference between the auto pumps in front and the commercial truck pumps in the back.

When I would stop at a Loves to fill up my DMAX at the big pumps (I was getting 50+gallons at a time), I had to go inside and pay to get the non-commercial price.

 

[Rorschach]

If you notice how the diesel prices on the signs at truck stop(Loves,etc)will toggle back and forth a price, it's the tax difference between the auto pumps in front and the commercial truck pumps in the back.

When I would stop at a Loves to fill up my DMAX at the big pumps (I was getting 50+gallons at a time), I had to go inside and pay to get the non-commercial price.

The sign toggles back and forth between credit and cash. It's usually about $.06 difference. That's because credit cards charge a percentage on the sale when you use plastic for payment. It has nothing to do with commercial or non-commercial. You and I can go to any fuel station in America, you in your DMAX and me in my semi and we can both get the same fuel for the same price.

 

[Kraut_n_Rice]

The sign toggles back and forth between credit and cash. It's usually about $.06 difference. That's because credit cards charge a percentage on the sale when you use plastic for payment. It has nothing to do with commercial or non-commercial. 

We're not talking about the same thing.  The small stations, Circle K typically, will play the "easy pay/credit" bullshit.  Truck stops will toggle auto and truck prices

 

[Rorschach]

We're not talking about the same thing.  The small stations, Circle K typically, will play the "easy pay/credit" bullshit.  Truck stops will toggle auto and truck prices

Easy pay is a third party payer that you link your credit card to for payment. You see this at circle k and the like. But a lot of the truck stops have signs that toggle back and forth between credit and cash prices which is usually about $.06 difference. Here's an example. Nothing there about commercial or non-commercial or auto and truck.

 

[Kraut_n_Rice]

Easy pay is a third party payer that you link your credit card to to make payment. A lot of the truck stops have signs that toggle back and forth between credit and cash prices which is usually about $.06 difference. Here's an example. Nothing there about commercial or non-commercial.View attachment 35706

Where is that station?  I need to fill up.

 

[Rorschach]

Where is that station?  I need to fill up.

Just a pic I found online. An old one obviously. But seriously, I can't tell if you're punking me or if you really think there's a regulated different higher fuel price for commercial vehicles 

 

[Kraut_n_Rice]

Just a pic I found online. An old one obviously. But seriously, I can't tell if you're punking me or if you really think there's a different higher fuel price for commercial vehicles 

I used to have to go inside with my NON commercial DL to get the auto fuel price at the truck pumps.  No BS.

 

[Rorschach]

I used to have to go inside with my NON commercial DL to get the auto fuel price at the truck pumps.  No BS.

I stand corrected.

It looks like that's just an AZ thing tho. They do have an $.18 extra per gallon commercial vehicle fuel tax. They also have a fuel tax evasion unit (fuel tax police) to criminalize using dyed fuel for on road use and blending untaxed waste products  into diesel fuel for on road use.

They'd nail me to the cross over there. I burn thousands of gallons of waste oil for fuel every year in on road vehicles. 

 

[Kraut_n_Rice]

I stand corrected.

It looks like that's just an AZ thing tho. They do have an $.18 extra per gallon commercial vehicle fuel tax. They also have a fuel tax evasion unit (fuel tax police) to criminalize using dyed fuel for on road use and blending untaxed waste products  into diesel fuel for on road use.

They'd nail me to the cross over there. I burn thousands of gallons of waste oil for fuel every year in on road vehicles. 

Using dyed fuel on road and using "auto" diesel for OTR are not exactly the same.  But, both a no-no.  Both tax evasion.  There is an additional tax break on dyed fuel.  Penalties' are stiff if busted using red fuel on road..

Nothing here says you can't run waste oil as a fuel on road.

 

[Rorschach]

Using dyed fuel on road and using "auto" diesel for OTR are not exactly the same.  But, both a no-no.  Both tax evasion.  There is an additional tax break on dyed fuel.  Penalties' are stiff if busted using red fuel on road..

Nothing here says you can't run waste oil as a fuel on road.

Idk. The fuel tax evasion unit might have something to say about it. Apparently untaxed fuel damages engines. 

 

[Kraut_n_Rice]

Never heard of anyone getting busted for using bio/waste fuel.  That would go against the "be green" BS.  If the law reads like that in AZ,  what convoluted mess has CA put together?  Burning waste oil here was so prevalent that you paid for shitty chinese take out grease trap oil..

I started to assemble my own bio D still/processor a few years back.  Getting the oil was a huge PITA be cause everyone wanted it.  Gave up on it.

YMMV..