San vicente baja race massacre

I get it until you and/or your family are kill.t

I'm all for badasses...I've been known to do my own share of "stupid" chit but I'm mature enough to draw a line in the sand.
Or till your wife is raped while they hold your child at gun point and force you to watch. 

 
I'm about as Hispanic as I can get. I have no business in Mexico and have no desire to be there. Even after constant invitations, I'll pass. My wife has had 2 cousins killed and 1 bro in law's brother. Just this past week, head of security for the Mayor of TJ was killed in downtown TJ in the morning. My wife was heading there on a major meeting that morning that was going to address a lot of issues between San Diego and TJ, canceled immediately. Just as you thought you had gained some ground on making it better for the two bordering communities, you are reminded that their government isn't in control there. Here is my wife's texts that morning...

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We canceled our trip to Cancun, not worth the saving of money to be on the beach where so many random killings happen in the country,  you dont hear about this many random shooting in Canada the other boarder country, 

The big issue is that the local police or government. does not really react to these situations, they make a press release that they are looking into it, and make a statement that it is so Radom, Fuk Mexico.  I will spend my money in the States.  

 
I'm about as Hispanic as I can get. I have no business in Mexico and have no desire to be there. Even after constant invitations, I'll pass. My wife has had 2 cousins killed and 1 bro in law's brother. Just this past week, head of security for the Mayor of TJ was killed in downtown TJ in the morning. My wife was heading there on a major meeting that morning that was going to address a lot of issues between San Diego and TJ, canceled immediately. Just as you thought you had gained some ground on making it better for the two bordering communities, you are reminded that their government isn't in control there. Here is my wife's texts that morning...

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Glad all went well for your wife and you. Be safe.

 
We canceled our trip to Cancun, not worth the saving of money to be on the beach where so many random killings happen... 
Just got back from my 1st trip to cancun. We stayed in the hotel zone. I felt very secure and walked to the OXXO for bfast every morning. Went on a couple excursions. On the beach and in the resort was constant security including police walking driving the beach. 

I will say gringos were the minority.  Somewhat disappointed with the lack of English speaking front desk people. Luckily I speak enough Spanish to get but I just don't understand it as well as I used too.

We went to cabo last year. Felt more American there. But maybe ust the spots we were at.

We do rocky point a couple times a year.

From reading about this event is was cartel rivals gunning each other down.

A case of mistaken identity did happen earlier this year along the Texas border but the cartel self corrected and turned those 3 clowns over. 

All in all, don't go with stupid people and you will be fine. If you don't feel safe then stay state side. But I'd talk to a feel people versus watching the news/Instagram before making a decision.

Jonathan

PS. I do want to tag along on a baja ride some year as I have no idea where to start.. and I want to try taco al pastor or carmellos.

 
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Or till your wife is raped while they hold your child at gun point and force you to watch. 
Oooooooof!

Skip me!

I own a 3-story, 5/5 mansion, ¼ m from the beach in Mazatlan…Lomas for those who know.  Neighbors are “artists” and “businessmen’, but I havent been there in 5 years out of fear. 🤷🏻‍♂️. I just rent it out.

….and my family are legit corporate business owners, politicians, and physicians.

the risk isn’t worth it.  A DA uncle was murdered outside his house (3 from mine) and 4 guys ‘volunteered’ to take the rap.  F all that!

 
Just got back from my 1st trip to cancun. We stayed in the hotel zone. I felt very secure and walked to the OXXO for bfast every morning. Went on a couple excursions. On the beach and in the resort was constant security including police walking driving the beach. 

I will say gringos were the minority.  Somewhat disappointed with the lack of English speaking front desk people. Luckily I speak enough Spanish to get but I just don't understand it as well as I used too.

We went to cabo last year. Felt more American there. But maybe ust the spots we were at.

We do rocky point a couple times a year.

From reading about this event is was cartel rivals gunning each other down.

A case of mistaken identity did happen earlier this year along the Texas border but the cartel self corrected and turned those 3 clowns over. 

All in all, don't go with stupid people and you will be fine. If you don't feel safe then stay state side. But I'd talk to a feel people versus watching the news/Instagram before making a decision.

Jonathan

PS. I do want to tag along on a baja ride some year as I have no idea where to start.. and I want to try taco al pastor or carmellos.
We still wanted beach and Jungle, Did Maui instead,  drove over 500 miles on the island seen about everything on Maui, have been to Cancun a couple of times, all and all felt safer in Hawaii and felt the food was way better than anything we have had in Mexico.  The diving was better in Cancun and the water was warmer, but in Maui i did not feel like i had to watch my back at all, we spent very little time at the resort in Maui, mostly in the jungle or little villages eating with the locals on the beach.   

 
Oooooooof!

Skip me!

I own a 3-story, 5/5 mansion, ¼ m from the beach in Mazatlan…Lomas for those who know.  Neighbors are “artists” and “businessmen’, but I havent been there in 5 years out of fear. 🤷🏻‍♂️. I just rent it out.

….and my family are legit corporate business owners, politicians, and physicians.

the risk isn’t worth it.  A DA uncle was murdered outside his house (3 from mine) and 4 guys ‘volunteered’ to take the rap.  F all that!
I went to high school with a kid whos dad was a high up official in mexico. He had two body guards that followed him everywhere

 
Good thing there were zero murders in the USA last week. This thread smells like vagina.
I lived the life you post about.  I know you love your boys and family….

Just don’t try to be about.

Wishing you and family the best in health, success, and, safety, bro.  You cross that line and it’s a different world. 

My dad’s brother, another legit lawyer, was chopped up in 1998 for not going with the flow.

 
If you think Mexico is safe....you are confused.   Parts of it are, but parts of it ain't.  Don't get off the beaten path.

In addition to what was previously mentioned....Which matches with what I've read, in reports.  They get on a city or "Greyhound" bus and take everybody hostage, then force people to kill each other to see who is willing to kill in order to stay alive.  Those people are "Drafted" in to the cartel.  The others....they just disappear.

Havasu is safer than Mexico....huh.

A bazillion stories about people having their rails stolen and then seen at the Chief of Police's house when I was a kid living in Yuma.  

2 years ago, a guy that was a firend of mine, 43 years ago.  He had his RZR, SXS and truck stolen/seized.  He was lucky to get out of jail.  He had friends in the legal system.  I am not sure if he got his stuff back or not.

BTW, he was talking about Pozole....cooking bodies in a 55 gal drum of acid.

Some of you are kidding yourselves....why does the STate Department say stay out of Mexico?

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/mexico-travel-advisory.html

 
Cabo is 100x safer than the US.  I would not say that about any other city in MX.  Not one tourist ever killed there by cartel.  The amount of wealthy $400m+ people walking around downtown is ridiculous.  No one has security (maybe bezos, etc).  Regarding the race; it was a hit on the guy in the black/neon green can am. He was warned to stay out of that area.  Idk how many of the group were collateral damage or associated with him.  All of my employees are from MX and they get 'different' info than we get.....

 
Cabo is 100x safer than the US.  I would not say that about any other city in MX.  Not one tourist ever killed there by cartel.  The amount of wealthy $400m+ people walking around downtown is ridiculous.  No one has security (maybe bezos, etc).  Regarding the race; it was a hit on the guy in the black/neon green can am. He was warned to stay out of that area.  Idk how many of the group were collateral damage or associated with him.  All of my employees are from MX and they get 'different' info than we get.....
Not even close, My Best friend Milton went to Cancun with his whole family in September of last year, his dad got Covid, they put him in a separate room in the Hotel, he got a little worse, when they picked him up with a Ambulance, and got him to the hospital they would not take him out of the Ambulance until Brad paid $4000 us, Then they wanted $10,000 to check him into the hospital,  Then they told him they wanted another $10,000 and when they refused the put him on medication that made his O2 level go down.  He called Life flight out of Texas and they told him to get his family out of the Country.  They came by Helicopter with a PA and two armed guards, and a armed escort.  They tried to keep Brad Father and they pulled him out of the hospital with armed us guards. 

The hospital in Cancun would rather get cash than save a US citizen.  

 
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