Jeep or Toyota FJ cruiser or ?

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If you get a Jeep get one with the 3.6 in it the 3.8 was Horrible in my opinion. If you want an older one buy an LJ with a 4.0 in it. That is the exact Jeep I want Next
This is what one of mine is.  He'd be lucky to find a decent one around 20 though.  They are bringing a premium these days.  I had to fly to Salt Lake to get the one I have.

 
This is what one of mine is.  He'd be lucky to find a decent one around 20 though.  They are bringing a premium these days.  I had to fly to Salt Lake to get the one I have.
My LJ has a solid gold frame and seats made of silk.......at least you would think so with the price they go for.......  2004 with a rockrawler 3.5 lift and eatons front rear with 5.13s....Still gets shitty mileage..........

 
Everybody has Jeeps.

I've seen some nicely done FJ's.



Which is more capable for the type of trail riding you want to do? Is there any issues with either being a Toad behind a MH?
Great questions. 
Looking forward to seeing some responses. 

 
I want one of them 392 Rubicons
I have one.  It's a sick toy.  mileage is a freakin' joke.  Ordered mine in Tuscadero Pink, factory 35's and 4.56 gears (Recon package).  If you're into rock crawling, the transfer case does not have the 4:1 low that the 'normal' rubicon gets. 

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To the OP.  I vote for the Jeep.  Never a fan of independent front suspension when offroad.  With Jeeps newer is always better, but even the TJ's (2003-2004) are pretty good.  Everyone wants the four doors, so you have an advantage when looking at 2 doors.  The TJ Rubicon's are awesome offroad with the 4:1 low transfer case, 4:11 gears and factory lockers.  My son has an XJ and those wheel pretty decent and are cheap.

 
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Jeep: Easy to set up to flat tow. takes regular unleaded, lots of parts availability

Toyota: Check to see if they still use premium gas. Not sure if easy to flat tow, I didn't like the visibility while driving (Jeep is a little better) 

Biggest thing is the flat towing: can it be done? How easy is it to set up?  

 
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I have one.  It's a sick toy.  mileage is a freakin' joke.  Ordered mine in Tuscadero Pink, factory 35's and 4.56 gears (Recon package).  If you're into rock crawling, the transfer case does not have the 4:1 low that the 'normal' rubicon gets. 

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Because the 392 will twist that box into lawn art with a 4:1........sometimes power is a curse.

 
I didn’t think FJ were flat towable ? 


Correct. Gear driven transfer case that won’t get splash lubricated with it in N. You’d have to remove the driveshafts. 


Jeep: Easy to set up to flat tow. takes regular unleaded, lots of parts availability

Toyota: Check to see if they still use premium gas. Not sure if easy to flat tow, I didn't like the visibility while driving (Jeep is a little better) 

Biggest thing is the flat towing: can it be done? How easy is it to set up?  
Thanks guys. 
This is what I’m looking for, the Toyota is out. 

 
To the OP.  I vote for the Jeep.  Never a fan of independent front suspension when offroad.  With Jeeps newer is always better, but even the TJ's (2003-2004) are pretty good.  Everyone wants the four doors, so you have an advantage when looking at 2 doors.  The TJ Rubicon's are awesome offroad with the 4:1 low transfer case, 4:11 gears and factory lockers.  My son has an XJ and those wheel pretty decent and are cheap.
Thanks. 
I’m sticking with the 2 door. Went to a dealership and asked the sales guy what the wheelbase of each was, he didn’t know. I got my measuring tape out and the 2 door is 2 feet shorter than the 4 door.  
Of course the sales guy didn’t know what TJ, XJ, and other designations were either. So I need to do some more research on those. 

 
I have one.  It's a sick toy.  mileage is a freakin' joke.  Ordered mine in Tuscadero Pink, factory 35's and 4.56 gears (Recon package).  If you're into rock crawling, the transfer case does not have the 4:1 low that the 'normal' rubicon gets. 

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It would be my first Jeep and likely only see mild off-roading (see Windrock, etc. in TN).  I’m in it for the power (why my atc70 will have a 450 motor).  The hp/tq output is nuts.  I’d add some lighting, sounds, cooler, rack and other mild stuff to make for an all-day/one overnight trip.

 
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I have a H3 Hummer and love it, bought it new and is flat towable, it has a button on the dash to disconnect all 4 wheels . Only problem is finding one. DON~~~

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One other thing, 2 door vs 4 door, the space behind the seat (cargo area) is smaller on the 2 door then the 4.

As mentioned before get a 2012 or newer, it will have the 3.6 motor which I was told is more reliable than the 3.8.

You'll most likely be looking for a JK, the JL's are newer and probably not in the $20k range

 
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I’m sticking with the 2 door. Went to a dealership and asked the sales guy what the wheelbase of each was, he didn’t know. I got my measuring tape out and the 2 door is 2 feet shorter than the 4 door.  
Of course the sales guy didn’t know what TJ, XJ, and other designations were either. So I need to do some more research on those. 
TJs are going to be close to 20 years old or older at this point. XJs are at least 22 years old now. I’d get something newer unless you like tinkering a lot. 

 
I’m going to be selling my SxS, 5th wheel toy hauler and truck soon and buy a Jeep Wrangler or something similar. 
I know nothing about Jeeps or other comparable brands. 
My budget will be around $20k. I will use it as a daily driver, flat tow it behind the Moho, and some mild off roading like fire roads to destination points. I want an automatic and think a 2 door. 
I’m all ears. 
Been driving this everyday since I purchased in Dec 2010.  Now has 200k and a little lifter tick.  Finally added a 3.5 lift and 35' tires this year and several add ons.  The aftermarket is endless for TJs and I'll keep it forever and just upgrade it.  I could not care less for newer vehicles, but the wife's '12 Sequoia is a decent family alternative.

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TJs are going to be close to 20 years old or older at this point. XJs are at least 22 years old now. I’d get something newer unless you like tinkering a lot. 
If you consider "tinkering a lot" changing the oil and basic maintenance, then a TJ is certainly not for you.

 
If you consider "tinkering a lot" changing the oil and basic maintenance, then a TJ is certainly not for you.
Yep. Mine was fine then too, but age catches up. My 97 XJ has 260k miles. The wiring rots and melts eventually. 


Took me months of screwing with things to discover this, stranded on the side of the road and it would magically “heal” after a bit. After that was fixed, the engine would stall turning left because Chrysler put the cruise control on the TPS circuit and when the clock spring dies, it grounds that whole sensor circuit out and the ECU faults.

At 200k, you should swap the timing chain set, especially if you’re hearing a tick. Transfer case chain will also be close to done as well, rebuilds are easy though.

I’ve done the oil pan and rear main seal twice. Before that, my 4.0 was a really good dust abatement device. 

Fuel pump should also be swapped about this time. 

Both driveshafts were rebuilt. Same with the front axle shafts and diff seals. 

Crank Position Sensor should be close to dead as well. Only replace with Mopar, aftermarket doesn’t last.

Steering box and power steering pump committed suicide at about 220k. Fairly easy swap. Replace the high pressure hose while you’re in there.

I’ve had the tubular manifold crack and leak twice. Never re-welded, always replaced.

Plastic tanks on the radiator weep. Always.

Stock steering is hilariously under-sized. Same with the track bar.

Wheel bearings will need replacement soon.

Ball joints should be swapped, especially on 35s.

They’re super simple and reliable, but they’re not immune to 20+ years of (ab)use. Mine has been on nearly every trail in the southwest, 5 day treks across the Mojave, and a fun backup vehicle. You just have to pay attention to it because it’s an old ass car now. 

Like I said, tinkering. Thanks for the negative rep though, set me straight. :biggrin:

 
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