Business owners where are you finding your employees?

Been trying to hire for over a year, this is what I find. We use INDEED and Craigslist

90% will not answer a phone, text or e-mail after they send in the resume, I mean right after. I leave voice if it is set up not common, I send text message stating I am calling regarding the resume they sent and finally an email asking them to call.

The remaining 10% who you talk to that sound good  I tell them I will be on the jobsite tomorrow during these hours bring DL & SS card  we can have you start.

That is the last time I hear from them

Most of the responses I get are from headhunters or temp agencies offering their services.

Construction right now is screwed in Az.  We have three large projects that are overpaying undertrained idiots to walk around and look like they are working at a escalating pay scale that just baffles the mind.  

 
MWB said:
Been trying to hire for over a year, this is what I find. We use INDEED and Craigslist

90% will not answer a phone, text or e-mail after they send in the resume, I mean right after. I leave voice if it is set up not common, I send text message stating I am calling regarding the resume they sent and finally an email asking them to call.

The remaining 10% who you talk to that sound good  I tell them I will be on the jobsite tomorrow during these hours bring DL & SS card  we can have you start.

That is the last time I hear from them

Most of the responses I get are from headhunters or temp agencies offering their services.

Construction right now is screwed in Az.  We have three large projects that are overpaying undertrained idiots to walk around and look like they are working at a escalating pay scale that just baffles the mind.  
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I assume this is due to all the jobs being pulled in at the semiconductor plant out north?

 
onanysunday said:
I assume this is due to all the jobs being pulled in at the semiconductor plant out north?
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correct, along with Intel in Chandler, and Samsung.  When bidding new large projects we are adding the extra $5+ an hour incentive to the bid number.  Its going to be hard to man a new large project like the battery plant in Queen Creek coming up later this year.  Just about any warm body who can work in construction can make decent AZ money for the foreseeable future.  

 
megadesertdiesel said:
correct, along with Intel in Chandler, and Samsung.  When bidding new large projects we are adding the extra $5+ an hour incentive to the bid number.  Its going to be hard to man a new large project like the battery plant in Queen Creek coming up later this year.  Just about any warm body who can work in construction can make decent AZ money for the foreseeable future.  
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Which means a flood of people moving there.  Sorry about your freeways... :biggrin:

 
onanysunday said:
I assume this is due to all the jobs being pulled in at the semiconductor plant out north?
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You have Intel in Chandler, I want to say there are 4 tower cranes and about a dozen smaller ones then you have the big semiconductor plant up North, hear they have 10 electrical contractors, plus you have the big Hotel going in just to the south of State Farm Stadium that is full push mode right now.

 
Rockwood said:
Which means a flood of people moving there.  Sorry about your freeways... :biggrin:
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Also means can't find contractors to build homes so unless you want to live in a hotel or your car moving here means somebody moving out.  See AZ is full.

 
My old line of work was a pain to find help most kids were clueless and didnt care to really learn quickly.Worst part i got stuck with them riding along and got more work because i now had a "helper" somehow that magically made me faster.LOL

Most started out the first week with good potential then after that they fell off and boss did not want to let them go because hes had them a week and thinks well atleast they can do something to speed you up.After a few months some may learn but their quality of work was so so then they either quit or go elsewhere to another company they tried to get a job at who would not train them.Then the cycle repeated.

Now in az for last three years but not working there yet my old boss cried he needed help i came back and helped him out temporarily but he was paying me less so i stopped going now he doubled it and was good but most of his employees quit or got fired and was only me and him.He did not like the labor part rather be in office might do job or two then get tired so it was basically me.He eventually shut business down and  thats all i will say about that.Besides trying to be loyal to a company does not work out in long run with some people.Right now help my brother out as he does the same thing and i get to work a flexible sch usually every other week unless i spend more money that planned then head home to az for a week and enjoy the week off.

Only doing one thing for almost 30 years and trying something new is a weird feeling most likely try and find a part time job locally and a new field of work i just dont know exactly what.Its  a wait and see approach but would be something i enjoy doing but like some have mentioned some want alot of demands for jobs that go unfilled.May end up getting a CDL too as driving i wouldnt mind doing wheter its small truck or delivery driver.

 
@onanysunday Sorry we've destroyed your thread...

This topic has me thinking a lot.  Not looking for reassurances and such and I know @ChEFF hates when I bring this up but...

The biggest lie ever told in the job market is that America and employers value Veterans.  Companies have "Veteran hiring programs" because if they do, they get government kickbacks.  All you have to do is have a "Veteran program".  Every job I actually interviewed for, had me fill out a "Veteran hiring" program form.  It's BS...especially since they didn't hire me and for those they do hire, it's entry level, low paying jobs.  I actually got offered a job working in a ship yard for $14/hr and was told that's they best I qualified for.  F*cking WE Todd Did.  (stupid censors!)

Here's my list of jobs I've done: Auto mechanic, machinist, jet mechanic (flight line, vibration analysis tech/inspector, rebuild facility, test cell and quality assurance inspector on 8 different engines...many other things but you get it), pilot (fixed winged and helo), Standardization, instructor, mission and aircraft commander, weapons officer, instrument check pilot, maintenance test pilot, aircraft maintenance officer (300 plus people and 14 aircraft), aircraft quality assurance officer, operations officer (both ship squadron and aircraft squadron), senior crash investigator and safety officer (over 3000 people, 14 commands, 300 aircraft), force protection officer, anti-terrorism officer, Joint Operations center Executive officer in charge of 7th Fleet anti-terrorism and counter piracy, facilities maintenance officer and now global compliance officer at a logistic company.  And...this is the short list.

So...all that combined with 3 Master's..."sorry but you do not fit the needs or requirements of the position..."  F*CKING BULLS*T!!!  

 
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Hiring Vets sounds great on the outside, but what you get out of the "one and done" crowd is typically hot garbage.  

Their resumes are full of BS like "Chief maintenance officer".  Reality is all they did was made sure the base commanders ride was always full of gas.

 
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Kraut_n_Rice said:
Hiring Vets sounds great on the outside, but what you get out of the "one and done" crowd is typically hot garbage.  

Their resumes are full of BS like "Chief maintenance officer".  Reality is all they did was made sure the base commanders ride was always full of gas.
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And yes.  There is a difference and just because you're a Vet, doesn't make you a stellar person or candidate.

It also doesn't help when you have members of Congress openly saying Veteran are unstable.  

 
Mac said:
While not necessarily on topic with the original post, I'll share this.

As a job seeker, it has become almost impossible to keep up and give potential employers what they are looking for.  "Bob" has worked here 35 years and is retiring.  We need a replacement for "Bob".  So, employers write such a detailed list of requirements to fill "Bob's" shoes.  You will never find "Bob".  It shuts out and discourages so much other talent.  Whatever happened to OJT, training, giving someone a chance and grooming them for your needs?

Job listings are so detailed and now all this "keyword" crap.  Who can keep up?  Then, you have automated screening software.  And yes, I have entered the age of "age discrimination" (50 plus).

Here's a bit about me.  3 Master's degrees (one's an MBA).  Retired Naval Officer/pilot.  I managed major programs with over $5 billion in assets.  I am very dynamic, very adaptable, lots of experiences, leadership, process improvement.  I'm highly trained in crisis action planning, risk management, safety/crash investigation.  I currently manage government licensing and certification for a global logistics company.  The list goes on.  Yet, everyone tells me my resume isn't the problem, but apparently it is because I get rejections s fast as I submit the application.  

Guess what...none of that has ever helped me get a foot in the door.  The only way I got my current job was from a friend recommending me to the company.

AND...why list "remote" for the position when it means..."remote" in Chicago, Tampa, New York...  COVID showed us what "remote" is...it's not living/working in a city separate of the corporate office, it's at home and some travel involved.

If I was to lose my job or get fed up and quit, I'm just going back to being retired.  I'd love to keep working and padding my future and lifestyle, but it's not worth the endless rejections and not being "Bob" to fill the over detailed requirements.
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I’ll hire you. 

 
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I have a older crew that is 40 and up with a foreman that is 64 that I hired last year (puts a bust to the 50+ hiring) and have a crew that is all under 23. The young buck crew I run. I’m becoming a good teacher. It’s not all about what you say but how you say it, and these kids actually do a kick ass job. I tell them all the time they are doing a great job, because I’m truly proud to see them learn and grow and mature as men, not only in their work but life. But I also push them hard when needed, sometimes more then they like, but it’s what they need. 
 

It’s not all perfect, but I will tell you, if you take an interest in your employees and actually care about them as people, they will move mountains for you. And that’s honestly what we do. 
 

I have also hired a lot of guys and fired them after a week or two because of their attitude or just being stupid and not taking direction. It’s almost like a filter and I keep the few good ones. It wreaks havoc on my books and workers comp hiring and firing. 
 

I guess this doesn’t help the OP in where to find good help. I don’t take good direction, I would probably fire me if I was an employee. 

 
With today's younger employees you hire fast, fire faster and promote fastest.

That's the only way to keep empty spots full, get thru the dead weight that will always occur and retain the great ones worth keeping. 

Short term employment is the new normal, we need to adjust out of our comfort zone.

 
I've got a summer YOUTH program. Found out today, the kid I have working this year, It's against the law. Unless I pay him CASH under the table. He's 14 years old. Texas Workforce Commission won't allow him to work with any power tools / warehouse work / cooking / scissor lift / fork lifts / nothing. The only thing he can do is office work. Don't need him filing papers. I need manual labor. I'm sure it states he can't be on a ladder either. And they're not allowed to work over 40hrs a week. Peace

 
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