Anyone else terrified to tow?

Slight little variant is a trailer with surge brakes. In that situation hitting the tow vehicle brakes can help when the trailer is whipping around. I almost wadded it up on the 60 east, right around the 57 where it goes downhill. Had an 85 Blazer towing a flatbed trailer with surge brakes. I used to have an old vw powered sandrail. For some reason i had the sandrail loaded a little further back on the trailer. With my dirtbike at the front. It wasnt enough tongue weight. Seemed to tow fine out of hacienda heights. I was on the downhill section near the 57 and the trailer started swaying bad. Really really bad everyone behind me slowed down. Was before cell phones or i would have made the internet idiot list of the day. Lucky i didnt hurt anyone. I pulled over and did something to adjust the load. Was heading out to GH late on a thursday to do 2 laps before my hands would go numb. I could feel how hitting the brakes was bad, but i was going downhill, so throttling out only meant it would later start to swing again at 10mph faster. In that rare example i was super light on the brakes. Got it under control and pulled over. Having electric trailer brakes now is great. Im always swinging the manual control. 

I actually have been thinking of an idea. I want to measure my current trailer tongue weight. Im mostly curious how high it gets loaded with 200g water and 2 motorcycles in the back. I dont have much weight at the tail. My plan is to use a normal scale for humans. But rig it with pieces of wood to cut the weight in half. Have 2 platforms with a solid piece of wood across. Trailer tongue in the middle. One platform has the scale and should read pretty close to half the total weight im hoping. I want to load everything like im heading to glamis and then start to add fresh water from empty and record how it changes. If the number is really high i will take extra effort to move everything heavy to the back. Extra propane. Gas cans from my truck bed can go at the very rear of the trailer if needed. 

 
@wopachop never even thought about a surge brake system situation. Glad you posted your experience and  I can learn and share it. Thanks. 

 
Im sure lots of people here notice other tow vehicles in daily life driving around. The scary one to me is the SUV that appears to be stink bugging. When the rear end looks likes its being lifted up by the trailer. Its more common to see the opposite. SUV with the rear end slammed.

 
I was just about to say the same thing. Hopefully all that construction is done before we start heading that way to Glamis. Drove through there last year in the morning hours and it started raining couldn’t see the lane or lines then the sun popped out and was blinded and then really couldn’t see  anything. Pucker up moment for sure!!!
the construction in the Badlands is all but done... just went through there. Pretty nice having a tuck lane for them slow effers :lol:  

 
Im sure lots of people here notice other tow vehicles in daily life driving around. The scary one to me is the SUV that appears to be stink bugging. When the rear end looks likes its being lifted up by the trailer. Its more common to see the opposite. SUV with the rear end slammed.
Rebel Off-Road installed an (expensive) air bag system for my Suburban 1500 4x4 and I love it. It's own compressor with a remote. Run 5 psi around town and 30 psi when towing. No sag and it really helps the stability for tongue weight. Also added the extended mirrors with the 2 mirrors (top one goes straight back, lower for blind spots like in my Dually), that has been a big help as well as my box is max width.

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After 13 years of pretty much trouble free trips from Denver to Glamis and everywhere in between towing 16' enclosed to a 33' Tag TH the old girl caught on fire. 

Heading home from G in the middle of the night, 4 year old twins, 3 dogs and wife. I smell smoke. Start trying to pull over. Next thing I know flames are coming up and over the windshield.  Wake the family as I get her stopped and yank everyone out.

Grabbed the fire extinguisher out of the TH.   Hood wouldn't open. (Which was a good thing) Start shooting the extinguisher up from under the truck. Nope. Haul butt back to the TH and grab the extinguisher out of the rail and got it out.

From the time I smelled smoke to getting it out was probably 5-7 minutes. Did $26k of damage under the hood. And a hugggeee headache to get right. In hind sight, I should have let it all burn.....

02 7.3 f350. I still use her for towing trips to neighboring states but usually rent a new truck for Glamis trips now.

Did 3 trips to Glamis last year. Rented for 2 and decided to take Old Smokey for the 3rd. Lost a degas bottle,  alternator, locking hub and almost lost the entire hitch assembly.

The actual towing part doesn't bother me at all. I enjoy it. Especially in a rental.

The mechanical breakdowns terrify me.

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@endobear glad no one got hurt in the car-b-que...  

Where do you rent a truck big enough to tow the trailer?  

 
Not quite how it works.  The brake away has a separate, trailer mounted, battery only to engage the electric brakes in the event the cable/key is pulled out of the socket...like if the trailer leaves the tow vehicle...  When the "key" is re-installed the brake away battery is just charged by the tow vehicle, similar to the house batteries

Chances are you didn't get the key fully in, and the brake away battery engaged your brakes while you were driving.  What you were seeing as a back feed was the break away energizing the shared wire with the controller.
That, or the trailer’s tiny breakaway battery is dead as a door nail and shorts to ground. 

Big daddy was this you? 🤣

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CjBnGw4MU6P/?igshid=ZWFiZDJlMTg%3D

saw this earlier and kept thinking about your experience. You did the right thing as a young guy. I’ve always told my kids to do the same thing. Hit trailer breaks first second throttle out get control and slow down and never ever slam on the truck brakes. 
Nah, I was on a bike ride and got video of @Big_Daddy_Jp



 
I completely see why Truck Drivers make quick to the left lane passes,  you will be driving like them on the way to Idaho, 800 miles, you start to pull the grades and see cars in the rear view a ways back but a big rig in front to the left,  It adds some stress holding up traffic to pass a 53ft rig,  and going through Salt Lake was stress full, 

What i hate the most is fighting for lane position the Gorge gets down to one lane for construction  and it is always a fight for the single lane, that is stress with a 47 foot trailer 

 
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My new to me moho is a 32' Country Coach, 17' wheelbase makes for a nervous ride, she's a squirrely bitch! It's getting better the more I drive it - I'm getting more used to it but I haven't towed the 26' enclosed yet, just the Jeep.

I figure when I have the enclosed in tow Ill put on my blinker, give it a bit then start slowly moving over. Invoke the lug nut rule.

My mirrors SUCK for backing up. Frame of reference for distance is so far off I havent figured it out yet. It looks like I am inches away from hitting the rig next to me but there's plenty of space. I still have the wife on the phone backing me in and if I am alone its 17 trips in and out to check.

I do hate traffic and have a short fuse for idiots but when I am driving the moho I seem to mellow out a lot. Slow speed up hill doesn't seem to bother me but the a$$holes sneaking up the right side or cutting me off still piss me off!

 
That, or the trailer’s tiny breakaway battery is dead as a door nail and shorts to ground.
^ Rv trailers I owned, and none had the small battery for emergency brake. I know son's toy hauler dose not either.

 
^ Rv trailers I owned, and none had the small battery for emergency brake. I know son's toy hauler dose not either.
Yeah, mainly a flat bed thing

Speaking of, I should check mine before hooking the truck up…

 
I don't mind towing at all in my truck but the DP towing a 28ft stacker loaded sucks.  If there is wind it is insane.  My trailer is 106 wide and my butt has puckered more than once driving down the 78,  I have seen my stacker 2ft off the side of the road coming down the 78 and it can flip easy. very narrow roads with NO shoulder.  Idaho drive wasn't my fav.  Driving 9 hours takes a told when you have all your stuff loaded with the whole family.  being 78ft long also sucks getting into a gas station and in general getting around blows.  I miss the Toter home.  that was 75 mph one handed with the stacker.  I just set the cruse at 63.  I really don't care if people are behind me I can't do anything about it.  I move over as soon as I can but some hills are only 35mph.  I once towed up a 10% grade.  1 gear at 10mph.  Up and down .  Wife looked it up as we were going and it said the most dangerous road in America.  Opps wrong turn and couldn't turn around had to go up the 10%

 
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What is this front blowout system? 
 

Am super anal about my tires. Check air pressure before we head out on a trip, and check them before we head home. Try to change the tires out every 5 years. (Don’t forget about that spare tire), I have!) All this seems to have worked for me & our Motorhome. 
 

Then last year heading out to the desert I got about 12 miles from home on I-8 and we had a front tire blow out at 65 with the buggy trailer in tow. Pretty scary, loud as hell and did $18K in damage and took about 6-7 months to finally get all the parts, and repaired.
 

Also when I put 6 new tires on it, the tread and sidewalls looked fine, but once the tires where dismounted, we saw another tire were the casing was breaking down on the inside. This is most likely what was happening to the front tire that just blew out. It failed from the inside. 
 

One of my upgrades was to add the Safe T Plus steering stabilizer. It’s suppose to help keep you going strait in a blowout or on bad roads. Have not had the chance to see how or if it helps in the wind. Definitely takes some time getting used too, as it changes the feel of the steering. 
 
Learned about these recently:

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Years ago a friend of the family asked if I could help him for a couple days. He owned his own business hauling manufacture homes and setting them in place. He had a big order and needed one more driver for the haul. So we drove to phoenix for the pick up. Got there right when they were closing so slept in the trucks. Located our trailers in the morning and got them hooked up. Had pilot cars front and rear with wide load. We delivered the trailers to Catalina port. My trailer was 65’ long and 12’ wide at the eve. Had to drive in the slow lane hugging the emergency lane to keep to my lane. Seeing cars broke down in the emergency lane and needing to radio my rear pilot car to let me over was stressful. Sleeping in the truck for a couple nights was enough to know I never wanted to haul over the road! Lastly, having four lanes on a side street shut down, so I could swing wide enough, all while keeping my truck on the median curb to miss the streetlight while making a right hand turn, was enough to know what I tow to the desert ain’t shat! 

 
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