Watching Trump destroy Zelensky is America at its finest!!!

Give Ukraine more billions of dollars so another million innocent people can die for no results. Z jailed those investigating Bidens corruption. Didn't think the Donald would return to office. This is what happens.
 
Many of you probably watched what took place between Donald Trump and Zelenskyy tonight. Whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, you might be thinking to yourself, Oh my God, Donald Trump just screwed up.
However, as a lifelong practitioner of martial arts, strategy, and philosophy, let me explain the difference between what you believe you witnessed and what actually happened.
Donald Trump has been under constant political persecution since the beginning of his first term. Over time, he has learned to be patient and calculated.
Tonight, Zelenskyy was invited to the Oval Office. However, both Trump and JD Vance knew exactly what Zelenskyy was going to do—he would use this opportunity, in front of the American people, to make a power play. Both Trump and Vance anticipated this.
When Zelenskyy began appealing to the emotions of the American people, JD Vance stepped in, accusing him of disrespecting Donald Trump. This was brilliant strategy. It’s important to understand that Zelenskyy is trying to gain access to NATO.
Trump knew this but could not allow it to happen. If Ukraine joins NATO, the U.S. would be bound by NATO’s collective defense agreement—an attack on one is an attack on all.
Now consider the larger implications: Ukraine and Russia despise each other. If Ukraine were to become a NATO member, any future skirmish between them would obligate the U.S. to enter into direct conflict with Russia. This would mean World War III. And if that happened, China would have to choose a side—they would almost certainly align with Russia.
So what you witnessed tonight was a setup. Trump and JD Vance knew that the only way to achieve peace was to strategically align, at least on the surface, with Russia. Why? Because Russia would never sign a peace treaty if Ukraine were admitted into NATO.
This is why Trump dismantled Zelenskyy’s argument. And when Zelenskyy, seeing his play failing, tried to backtrack and offer a treaty, Trump refused.
Zelenskyy’s real intent was clear—he would not agree to peace unless security guarantees were in place. But what was he actually saying? That NATO must accept Ukraine. However, Russia would never agree to peace, knowing that NATO, their historical adversary, would surround them.
Zelenskyy, Putin, and Trump all knew this. Zelenskyy, thinking he had Democrats' support, believed he could make this bold move on live television. But Trump and Vance saw right through it and outmaneuvered him.
They knew that, in the short term, Democrats and the media would try to use this moment against them. But they also knew they had two years before midterms to prove their strategy was the right one. So they held their ground—brilliantly so.
Now, Zelenskyy will have no choice but to back down and accept Trump's terms. But here’s the genius part—Trump is actually protecting Ukraine without dragging the U.S. into war.
By negotiating a mineral deal, Trump ensures that Americans will be involved in Ukraine’s mining industry. This prevents Russia from launching an invasion, because attacking Ukraine would mean endangering American lives—something that would force the U.S. to respond.
Trump played both sides like a master chess player. In the end, Zelenskyy will have no choice but to concede, because without U.S. support, Ukraine cannot win a prolonged war against Russia. And once U.S. companies have mining operations in Ukraine, Putin will be unable to attack without triggering massive international consequences.
Don’t underestimate Donald Trump. In this game of chess, he’s 10 moves ahead of everyone.
 
Eh - it was a word salad from both sides on the 10 minute video....neither side said anything of significance, and it seemed more out of emotion than a pre-determined plan. Vance saying, having you ever said thanks - was a little petty in my opinion...and that obviously pissed off Z and kicked off the heated argument.

That confrontation in just going to cause more harm than good...Not saying I'm with Ukraine, but that could have been handled a little better - and behind doors...kind of like you don't argue in front of your kids as it's not the right / smart thing to do and common sense.

A lot of people will be pissed at the US for that meeting - and it didn't need to be that way. It was pathetic in my opinion - and p.s I voted for Trump and still glad I did.
 
wesinls said:
Vance saying, having you ever said thanks - was a little petty in my opinion...and that obviously pissed off Z and kicked off the heated argument.
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Petty? Nah.

Z should've opened up kissing American ass. He did the opposite. Just this side of threats..."you'll see"..

DJT wasn't having it. Vance was trying to cool the room while supporting his boss..
 
1.000.000 more to die on our Billions of dollars with maybe 100 yards of land gained and lost?
North Korea ended at the DMZ and Ukraine will have to settle for the same.

"One death is a tragedy, one million deaths is a statistic"
Here are the bare assed, butt naked truth facts:


USA has a $37 trillion dollar debt to pay off.
Europe has to fight their own wars on their own dime.
 
wesinls said:
Eh - it was a word salad from both sides on the 10 minute video....neither side said anything of significance, and it seemed more out of emotion than a pre-determined plan. Vance saying, having you ever said thanks - was a little petty in my opinion...and that obviously pissed off Z and kicked off the heated argument.

That confrontation in just going to cause more harm than good...Not saying I'm with Ukraine, but that could have been handled a little better - and behind doors...kind of like you don't argue in front of your kids as it's not the right / smart thing to do and common sense.

A lot of people will be pissed at the US for that meeting - and it didn't need to be that way. It was pathetic in my opinion - and p.s I voted for Trump and still glad I did.
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Zelensky jailed officials that were investigating the Biden Family Graft.
He jailed his political opponents and suspended elections and newspapers and other media.

Zelensky was paying Biden and Obama under the table for information about Russia. Biden and Obama pocketed that money. Astronomical sums.

Bidens crack-head son put on the board of their oil company. "I have to give half my pay to my dad."
This information would have kept Biden out of office and now it cost the average American family $12.000 a year more to live from Bidens failed policies.

No President has been more involved in graft and corruption and lies than Joe Biden. $50 million last count and rising.
Zelensky could have prevented that with the truth. The truth that is all in Hunters Lap Top that Democrats claim didn't exist.
Payback is a MoFo.
 
He met with the democrats before coming to the white house and make demands of americas president on live television. Z is the one breaking norms not trump and vance. They had every right to remind him we dont need him he needs us and is in no place to dictate to america about its money or war machine
 

Boston's Mayor Wu offers condolences to family of suspect shot after allegedly trying to stab people.........this right there...........​

 
It takes balls to make the type of swift, firm decisions Trump is making. It's not easy by any means. It takes courage and the highest degree of humble confidence that you're doing the best for the greater good.

The Rogan/Musk interview was fascinating. Musk isn't being paid to do what he's doing. Listen to the full podcast if you have the time.

/my opinion
 
Its been comfirmed; z met with deepstate democrats and republicans before meeting with trump and was told to disregard and disrespect trump.

Someone doesnt seem to want to realize they arent in charge
 
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