They're so easy to spot...

Surf and Dune said:
I'm sure we agree about 99% politically, but seems way uncool to start hassling an old lady who is a complete stranger that's minding her own business, no matter what her politics are. (which is none of your business in the first place) 
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Was thinking the exact same thing!  LOTD, get over it already, Im sure they did not go to lunch to talk about politics.  Time and Place, maybe you were never taught that "logic"  

 
dbart said:
Well, like @Surf and Dune stated she was just sitting there minding her own business. I think it's cool that you were concerned about her sitting in the hot sun!

Probably could have just left it at that, but getting political with strangers is a dicey game. chit even with friends I try to avoid it unless I know we're on the same page and then we can joke about the Biden voters.

:lmao:

I have a couple friends that Voted for Biden and I seriously want to ask them how they feel about their decision...but it will get ugly and they won't admit they Effed up.

From their point of view I effed up voting for Trump.

It's a no win situation...

Anyways...I just thought it was a little weird, but had I been there, I probably would have laughed, then think...Oh boy, here we go!!!!  :laugh1:  

:cheers:
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Everyone I know is a conservative and from the conversations at the VFW, most of them are as well, so I was a little surprised that she didn't see the humor/irony in my comment. I have one liberal friend who is very open minded and was willing to read info I showed him on Google. He did modify his alarmism about global warming and did a complete 180* on gun control because he had to agree with the logic, but he's a unicorn when it comes to being an open minded liberal who listens and understands.

I do see your point, unless I already know the political beliefs of the listener, that particular joke could lead to a meltdown like we saw in the streets after Trump got elected, or an interesting, enlightening conversation. I try very hard to see all sides of a topic and endorse the logical, least expensive, smallest gov't solution to every problem. Hell who am I kidding? I've never seen a liberal carry on an interesting, enlightening conversation!

to date, I've never met a liberal who could rationally, logically state their position and show any advantage to the larger population. All of their programs are aimed at minorities to make them feel more included, empowered, or enriched - but it's always at the expense of the taxpayers.

For example, there is a grant for blacks living in San Diego to buy their first home who make less than 120% of the median income. It gives them $40,000 toward their home purchase, tax free, with no repayment. Even if you were a first time home buyer, you don't qualify because you're white. How is that not racist? If there was a program to help white people buy their first home, it would take less than one second for them to cry "racist" and shut the program down. If I said this was a liberal program, would I be incorrect?

Now the above is an example of how I discuss topics like that, without getting ugly. The other person might get upset and ugly, but I have no control over other people's behavior. I would hope that everyone could have a civil, well informed discussion of current events and issues that concern all of us. You're right, a lot of people can't do that and the conversation devolves into emotional ranting.

That grant program is actually in effect, BTW.

https://www.lisc.org/san-diego/homebuyers/program-guidelines/

 
Sand Shark said:
She probably looked at you and said "I bet he is one of those guys that put a deposit on a Speed UTV 3 years ago and still does not have a car".  She gathered that because you did not stand in the sun with her.  LMAO!!!  She too could make ridiculous presumptions about a person in a matter of a minute. 

When she commented "we live in challenging times" why continue to press with more remarks?   Clearly you were waiting for some type of argument to develop and trolling.  She was not going to be baited. Hence her response.   
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We often meet challenged people.

 
Lord of the Dunes said:
Everyone I know is a conservative and from the conversations at the VFW, most of them are as well, so I was a little surprised that she didn't see the humor/irony in my comment. I have one liberal friend who is very open minded and was willing to read info I showed him on Google. He did modify his alarmism about global warming and did a complete 180* on gun control because he had to agree with the logic, but he's a unicorn when it comes to being an open minded liberal who listens and understands.

I do see your point, unless I already know the political beliefs of the listener, that particular joke could lead to a meltdown like we saw in the streets after Trump got elected, or an interesting, enlightening conversation. I try very hard to see all sides of a topic and endorse the logical, least expensive, smallest gov't solution to every problem. Hell who am I kidding? I've never seen a liberal carry on an interesting, enlightening conversation!

to date, I've never met a liberal who could rationally, logically state their position and show any advantage to the larger population. All of their programs are aimed at minorities to make them feel more included, empowered, or enriched - but it's always at the expense of the taxpayers.

For example, there is a grant for blacks living in San Diego to buy their first home who make less than 120% of the median income. It gives them $40,000 toward their home purchase, tax free, with no repayment. Even if you were a first time home buyer, you don't qualify because you're white. How is that not racist? If there was a program to help white people buy their first home, it would take less than one second for them to cry "racist" and shut the program down. If I said this was a liberal program, would I be incorrect?

Now the above is an example of how I discuss topics like that, without getting ugly. The other person might get upset and ugly, but I have no control over other people's behavior. I would hope that everyone could have a civil, well informed discussion of current events and issues that concern all of us. You're right, a lot of people can't do that and the conversation devolves into emotional ranting.

That grant program is actually in effect, BTW.

https://www.lisc.org/san-diego/homebuyers/program-guidelines/
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Black/African-American An individual who self-identifies as Black or African-American

So by today's Transracial Self-Identity standards....ANYONE Can apply :lol:



 
3 minutes ago, Crusty said:

Black/African-American An individual who self-identifies as Black or African-American

So by today's Transracial Self-Identity standards....ANYONE Can apply :lol:

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Make sure you pass on this helpful tip to your kids when they get ready to buy a house!

:lol:

 
Lord of the Dunes said:
Make sure you pass on this helpful tip to your kids when they get ready to buy a house!

:lol:
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They could always live with me until I pass, take over my home with no effort or personal success of their own at all!

:lol:

 
Sounds kinda like when someone chooses another person in public and tries to pick a fight with them. They choose that particular person because they look like an easy target for them to bully. But the bully is disappointed because the easy target they chose to bully will not buy into their self righteous BS and no fight or argument takes place. The bully is now even angrier than they were before and gets online to try to find a fight there which is really easy to do but it's just not the same and he cannot get the same satisfaction from it that comes from belittling someone in public. But on the positive side you can't get your ass kicked through the internet, so there's that.

 
You know people of that era were taught you don't talk politics or religion with people you don't know , Her answer couldn't of been better it was the perfect way to politically tell you  "Well Bless Your Heart" 

 
Lord of the Dunes said:
We often meet challenged people.
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That we do.  

You make fun of the "libtards" that are quick to judge and yet you did the same thing with this old lady based on her sitting in the sun and not engaging in your conversation.  The irony of complaining about what one does and yet you do it too!  LMAO!!!!

 
Sand Shark said:
That we do.  

You make fun of the "libtards" that are quick to judge and yet you did the same thing with this old lady based on her sitting in the sun and not engaging in your conversation.  The irony of complaining about what one does and yet you do it too!  LMAO!!!!
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See that's the part you misunderstand. I don't make fun of libtards for judging people. Every time I've made fun of them, it was because they are irrational, illogical and emotional. Also, what you call "judging" is what I call being observant.

Like when you see a broken X3 near a small drop off. One could make the observation that the driver ran out of talent, but the fact is, it didn't break because it was overbuilt or driven carefully, however judgmental that might seem to you.

When you go to a doctor with a fever and he tells you that you probably have some sort of infection, or the remote possibility of an ailment that causes your body not to properly control your temperature. Is he being judgmental, or observant?

 
Rorschach said:
Sounds kinda like when someone chooses another person in public and tries to pick a fight with them. They choose that particular person because they look like an easy target for them to bully. But the bully is disappointed because the easy target they chose to bully will not buy into their self righteous BS and no fight or argument takes place. The bully is now even angrier than they were before and gets online to try to find a fight there which is really easy to do but it's just not the same and he cannot get the same satisfaction from it that comes from belittling someone in public. But on the positive side you can't get your ass kicked through the internet, so there's that.
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You're an excellent example.

 
Lord of the Dunes said:
See that's the part you misunderstand. I don't make fun of libtards for judging people. Every time I've made fun of them, it was because they are irrational, illogical and emotional. Also, what you call "judging" is what I call being observant.

Like when you see a broken X3 near a small drop off. One could make the observation that the driver ran out of talent, but the fact is, it didn't break because it was overbuilt or driven carefully, however judgmental that might seem to you.

When you go to a doctor with a fever and he tells you that you probably have some sort of infection, or the remote possibility of an ailment that causes your body not to properly control your temperature. Is he being judgmental, or observant?
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 Yet here you are starting a thread about an old lady that would not engage with your banter and assume she is  a "libtard" because of it.  Who is being emotional now?  LMAO!!! 

Observing is seeing something and describing what you saw.  Judging or judgement is forming an opinion.   

 
Lord of the Dunes said:
there was a woman in her 70s sitting in a beach chair in direct sunlight, right next to shade, in a black asphalt parking lot.
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There is a possible answer. LOTD could even confirm or deny because most guys on this site know which way is North at any given time. 

Any chance she showed up early and sat in the shaded spot? Maybe the sun moved and started roasting her. Old lady was like eff it...i aints movin. 

 
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