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I have wanted to do a switch pro for my car. I have waited with just a couple switches tucked away for the basics.

I would like to either finish with switches or the switch pro.

Good bad or?

Id likely do the 12 switch version but I would rather just do the 8 switch version for cost.

What say ye?

 
I’ve got the 8 switch model in my truck and love it.  I’ve had it for a year.  Works flawlessly and is the cleanest wiring of accessories I’ve ever done on a vehicle.

 
I have an 8 switch one I’ll sell you for 530. Brand new in box. 

 
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I have the 8 switch and love it.  Makes wiring so much cleaner with no rrelays or fuses needed.   Just have to figure out how many things you plan on hooking up to the switch pro.  
 

Well worth the money.  

 
This is all we use to Wire a car, we sell them, above $530 is a good deal, they work great, we have sold them from Switch Pros start, the 9100 and newer have been flawless, and we have plenty of the old ones out there, 

 
I love my mine.  Much cleaner and easier install.  5 years no issues

 
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This will not go over well with people - switch pros users are like apple fan boys - I am one of the latter ...

But I like to always be honest, so you need to hear all the info IMO

Choice 1 - Keep it simple for reliability and lower cost is using good old K4 switches and relays Only where you need them.

Choice 2 - go for the cool all in one panel - Switch PRO'S is a solid state MosFET based system EE degree comes in handy sometimes.  Its generally really reliable and the company did some good work to ensure against the typical over voltage failures that technology has (Same tech essentially used in car amplifiers for stereos).  But since its all in one, if it fails, you are cutting wires and wiring around it. expect to get towed.  

If you used switches, you can 99% of the time jump them and be running in minutes to seconds.

I have installed many types of MosFET switch boxes including switch pro's and relay based switch boxes over the last few years, and none have failed, but I know some that have.  And partially its because the wiring was poor and shorted blowing the box or the alternator lost a diode (that happens to and MosFETs don't like 16v on the gate.  Some smart people buy a companion plug  they can just jump wires on and are never stuck or keep and extra around.

The switch panels (the keypad) last a long time since they are basically as reliable as a computer keyboard (similar tech).

With all transparency ...

I run a MosFET based switch panel in my car ... not a switch pro though, only because mine is jumpable in seconds - its not neccesarily better - its just better for me 

I would not go back to switches personally and I love starting with a keypad - its just cool, but I understand how to get around a failure.  All electronics fail - some are just better "protected" than others. 

If your car has a non OEM  ECM its likely less or equally as reliable than the switch box (except MoTec - they are tanks)  ( I carry a spare ECM and all the sensors too). 

Since you are wiring it yourself - you will have the best chance of never being stranded with an electrical failure ...

So bottom line you can't go either way - just plan on working around a box failure if you use an electronic SS system

 
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Fullthrottleguy said:
This will not go over well with people - switch pros users are like apple fan boys - I am one of the latter ...

But I like to always be honest, so you need to hear all the info IMO

Choice 1 - Keep it simple for reliability and lower cost is using good old K4 switches and relays Only where you need them.

Choice 2 - go for the cool all in one panel - Switch PRO'S is a solid state MosFET based system EE degree comes in handy sometimes.  Its generally really reliable and the company did some good work to ensure against the typical over voltage failures that technology has (Same tech essentially used in car amplifiers for stereos).  But since its all in one, if it fails, you are cutting wires and wiring around it. expect to get towed.  

If you used switches, you can 99% of the time jump them and be running in minutes to seconds.

I have installed many types of MosFET switch boxes including switch pro's and relay based switch boxes over the last few years, and none have failed, but I know some that have.  And partially its because the wiring was poor and shorted blowing the box or the alternator lost a diode (that happens to and MosFETs don't like 16v on the gate.  Some smart people buy a companion plug  they can just jump wires on and are never stuck or keep and extra around.

The switch panels (the keypad) last a long time since they are basically as reliable as a computer keyboard (similar tech).

With all transparency ...

I run a MosFET based switch panel in my car ... not a switch pro though, only because mine is jumpable in seconds - its not neccesarily better - its just better for me 

I would not go back to switches personally and I love starting with a keypad - its just cool, but I understand how to get around a failure.  All electronics fail - some are just better "protected" than others. 

If your car has a non OEM  ECM its likely less or equally as reliable than the switch box (except MoTec - they are tanks)  ( I carry a spare ECM and all the sensors too). 

Since you are wiring it yourself - you will have the best chance of never being stranded with an electrical failure ...

So bottom line you can't go either way - just plan on working around a box failure if you use an electronic SS system
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I only put accessories on my switch pro for that same reason. In case the panel fails I can still start my car. I keep the ecu switch and starter on separate switches. 

 
Does anyone have any experience or feedback on the SPod? The person who is going to rewire my car (Hardwired Performance) recommended SPod over the switch pro and I wanted to see if anyone on here has used one before?

 
Carwashguru said:
Does anyone have any experience or feedback on the SPod? The person who is going to rewire my car (Hardwired Performance) recommended SPod over the switch pro and I wanted to see if anyone on here has used one before?
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I installed one - not an expert  ... My observations - Jeep guys love it because they make custom dash inserts for them. 

US made,  really nice quality,  easy to jump if there is an issue unlike the Switch Pros - Relay technology on some and even rocker switch models - more expensive where there are cheaper alternatives if you don't have a Jeep

 
I always suggest the 12 button when going switch pros. The 8 button outputs are designated by terminal position and cant be changed via software like the 12 button (wire 1 = switch 1 and so forth for all 8). The 12 button has 17 outputs, you can also assign multiple outputs to one button press, have 3 triggers (use like a relay to turn on outputs), has one low amp ground switch output, and just more program flexibility.

Like Alex said a failure could have you needing to rewire and jump out circuits. I installed my switch pro when they first came out and was worried about this so I put all my outputs on a terminal block so if I needed to it would be easy to jump out in the event of failure. I have yet to have a failure and neither have any I've wired for other people but I have heard of it happening. I don't do the terminal block when installing anymore.

 
Travelah said:
I always suggest the 12 button when going switch pros. The 8 button outputs are designated by terminal position and cant be changed via software like the 12 button (wire 1 = switch 1 and so forth for all 8). The 12 button has 17 outputs, you can also assign multiple outputs to one button press, have 3 triggers (use like a relay to turn on outputs), has one low amp ground switch output, and just more program flexibility.

Like Alex said a failure could have you needing to rewire and jump out circuits. I installed my switch pro when they first came out and was worried about this so I put all my outputs on a terminal block so if I needed to it would be easy to jump out in the event of failure. I have yet to have a failure and neither have any I've wired for other people but I have heard of it happening. I don't do the terminal block when installing anymore.
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Smart way to wire it 

 
Fullthrottleguy said:
I installed one - not an expert  ... My observations - Jeep guys love it because they make custom dash inserts for them. 

US made,  really nice quality,  easy to jump if there is an issue unlike the Switch Pros - Relay technology on some and even rocker switch models - more expensive where there are cheaper alternatives if you don't have a Jeep
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Thank you!

 
i have my switch pros piggy into a hidden switch under the dash,  so if the switch pros goes out then i flip a switch and the ignition works, i have a hidden switch for 1 light, Ign, and a starter button, 

Never had to use them, so far non of the switch pros we have sold has had any issues, We off free programming on any switch pro we sell, 

 
I had an original SwitchPro in my car 5 seasons ago and had zero issues with it. Two seasons ago I completely tore down my car and found that the Switch Pro mounted flat was trapping condensation and it was prematurely corroding. But it was working flawlessly. My electrical guy JAX Motorsports in Upland, CA called them and they said it is a known issue and they have since updated the installation manual to stand them upright. They were really cool and sent me two of the newer 8 switch panels for the price of one and JAX installed both in my car so I'd have extra switches. A month later they introduced the new 12 switch panel. A little disappointed they didn't tell me about the new 12 switch. Regardless, two seasons later and zero issues with any of the 3 SwitchPro panels I've used. 

I have a friend that builds luxury prerunners and he HATES SwitchPro and has had numerous issues with them. 

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Jtmoney714 said:
I only put accessories on my switch pro for that same reason. In case the panel fails I can still start my car. I keep the ecu switch and starter on separate switches. 
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Physical switch is also nice because you can shut it off fumbling around in a panic because the throttle stuck or something. 

 
Wanted to dig this topic back up, lots of good info.

Im going to be re wiring my car soon and am debating on going with switch pros or something similar. My buddy just recently had his switch pros in his raptor go dead and that got me thinking about what if that were to happen out in the dunes. Really made me double think going that route. Anyone else ever have issues recently?

 
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