Sand Car Prices - New and Refresh

Funco4JM said:
Having just completed my rebuild... I know exactly what most are saying about the price of goods and services. I considered selling my Gen4 and finding the right Gen6, but I couldn't come to terms with the price tag... well here I am a year later, and very close to what a used Gen6 would go for.

Mac is correct in that everything gets touched and replaced. I replaced every nut and bolt, hiems, brake pad, wiring, and so on. The only things not replaced were the chassis, arms, axles, and hubs. It's crazy... but that's also why these rebuilds are trying to fetch the cost of a new car. For all purposes, it really is a new car, the time and money spent on the older car, you could've had a new car.

Live and Learn I guess... I won't do it again that's for sure. I love everything that I did to my car, but I could've had a true Gen6 had I listened to several people's warnings lol.
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I do love MY car. I've driven others, some definitely beyond my price point and I've never had car envy and just wanted to get back into mine.

With all the negatives said, there is absolutely nothing I won't know or have not touched on my car. During this process, I tried to think through everything from the vantage point of a mechanic. How can I troubleshoot it? How can I fix it? If adjustments can be made to make it easier, I've tried to incorporate that.
 
Funco4JM said:
Having just completed my rebuild... I know exactly what most are saying about the price of goods and services. I considered selling my Gen4 and finding the right Gen6, but I couldn't come to terms with the price tag... well here I am a year later, and very close to what a used Gen6 would go for.

Mac is correct in that everything gets touched and replaced. I replaced every nut and bolt, hiems, brake pad, wiring, and so on. The only things not replaced were the chassis, arms, axles, and hubs. It's crazy... but that's also why these rebuilds are trying to fetch the cost of a new car. For all purposes, it really is a new car, the time and money spent on the older car, you could've had a new car.

Live and Learn I guess... I won't do it again that's for sure. I love everything that I did to my car, but I could've had a true Gen6 had I listened to several people's warnings lol.
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Went thru this exact deal with my Funco. Hell, I could be driving a new F9 for the cost of the road I've traveled. Grant told me, I heard him, I just didn't listen.
 
wesinls said:
Buy internal bypass shocks...you'd be surprised (i sure am) what a difference they make....i actually like the chatter bumps...it's kind of like riding a jet ski with just a little bit of chop - feels like it hooks up better when you are riding at the correct speed vs glassy water.

That's one of the main differences between buggies and sxs - they have more travel of course, but the rough sections you're not using more that the first 6 to 8 inches...which is where the internal bypasses shine.
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After riding in @wesinls car this past weekend I am a believer! This car handled anything you could throw at it and rode amazing even over all the chatter bumps
 
wesinls said:
Buy internal bypass shocks...you'd be surprised (i sure am) what a difference they make....i actually like the chatter bumps...it's kind of like riding a jet ski with just a little bit of chop - feels like it hooks up better when you are riding at the correct speed vs glassy water.

That's one of the main differences between buggies and sxs - they have more travel of course, but the rough sections you're not using more that the first 6 to 8 inches...which is where the internal bypasses shine.
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I certainly think @Mac would feel a huge difference with some internal bypass on his car and since he doesn't seem to be in a hurry to finish it, they would be a great investment!
 
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I just make sure my shocks are topped off with nitrogen now and those chatter bumps are pretty much non-existent.

Mac, love your rebuild, a work of art.
 
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Cookie said:
I just make sure my shocks are topped off with nitrogen now and those chatter bumps are pretty much non-existent.

Mac, love your rebuild, a work of art.
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Thanks. It's definitely a project for the books.
 
madweazl said:
I certainly think @Mac would feel a huge difference with some internal bypass on his car and since he doesn't seem to be in a hurry to finish it, they would be a great investment!
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So funny you bring this up.

A few years ago while planning this rebuild, I researched shocks and wanted to go with internal bypasses. The issue is my car doesn't have much room to give in the shock/suspension areas. This would have been a major redesign and lots of fab to get it right. I would have also had to have the shocks custom made as the off-the-shelf ones were all too long to fit.

What I did do...I rebuilt the shocks and removed the remote reservoirs and converted them to piggybacks and was able to find 2.0 bridges with dual speed adjusters. It gives me as close to internal bypass as I can get. The other thing in my favor is my car is really light and doesn't really need bigger shocks. The 5 link works really well too. The only area I really give up is long, fast, straight aways or the first 100 yards of shooting the hill. The rear is so light, it will skip side to side. I might be able to play with the adjustment and work some of that out, but...I'm not a hill shooter and other than a run or two, I don't run the drags. The car is setup and performs great duning. If I need "more", I'll hit up Shock Talk and have him tune them, maybe bump the springs up a little too. All in all, my car has a great ride as it is.
 
Mac said:
So funny you bring this up.

A few years ago while planning this rebuild, I researched shocks and wanted to go with internal bypasses. The issue is my car doesn't have much room to give in the shock/suspension areas. This would have been a major redesign and lots of fab to get it right. I would have also had to have the shocks custom made as the off-the-shelf ones were all too long to fit.

What I did do...I rebuilt the shocks and removed the remote reservoirs and converted them to piggybacks and was able to find 2.0 bridges with dual speed adjusters. It gives me as close to internal bypass as I can get. The other thing in my favor is my car is really light and doesn't really need bigger shocks. The 5 link works really well too. The only area I really give up is long, fast, straight aways or the first 100 yards of shooting the hill. The rear is so light, it will skip side to side. I might be able to play with the adjustment and work some of that out, but...I'm not a hill shooter and other than a run or two, I don't run the drags. The car is setup and performs great duning. If I need "more", I'll hit up Shock Talk and have him tune them, maybe bump the springs up a little too. All in all, my car has a great ride as it is.
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There aren't SXS options that would work on your car?
 
Grease Monkey said:
Went thru this exact deal with my Funco. Hell, I could be driving a new F9 for the cost of the road I've traveled. Grant told me, I heard him, I just didn't listen.
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You definitely had a longer-traveled road than me. Funny though, Grant told me the same thing (and I didnt listen either) when I was buying stuff, he even talked to me about the cost of a base new Gen6 and how I would almost be right there in dollars spent... Hindsight is always 20/20...
 
As some may know, I am currently (see build thread) building a new 2025 Extreme Performance DR1 Car and I got in at the $125K Base Build Price (disclaimer; I added some upgrades...no longer a Base Build Price! ;)) .... now that same Base Build starts at $135K....from the beginning of Extreme releasing the new DR1 Allan was upfront saying the first (10) builds were at the introductory price to get the cars out there and in the dunes for everyone to check out.
Hands down, the car comes very well equipped for the Base Build Price, 550Hp LS3, S4 Trans w/ Chevy Bell Housing for the BIG clutch, Holley Electronics, 3.0 / 2.5 KINGS with Bypasses, Full Body, JetTrim Seats, KC Lights, OMF Beadlocks and the list goes on and on......How can Allan do this in today's market.....Have you seen his shop/setup....the Dude can do 90% of the car all in-house, he has an Engine Building Room that looks better than most of the engine builders we all know, he has his own in-floor Chassis Dyno, he cuts his own aluminum, laser cutting machine, King Adam The Great does all of the final aluminum bodies...and the list goes on and on.
I looked at SCU, Funco and SU....for the money and lead time (4-5 months) is was a no brainer to go with Extreme Performance....and If you've been watching the new DR1's are performing really well in Glamis, Allan and his Team have been hitting it hard out there to show what the cars can really do.....I'll keep you posted on the progress of my car....should start kicking into high gear soon!

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Meter Tech said:
As some may know, I am currently (see build thread) building a new 2025 Extreme Performance DR1 Car and I got in at the $125K Base Build Price (disclaimer; I added some upgrades...no longer a Base Build Price! ;)) .... now that same Base Build starts at $135K....from the beginning of Extreme releasing the new DR1 Allan was upfront saying the first (10) builds were at the introductory price to get the cars out there and in the dunes for everyone to check out.
Hands down, the car comes very well equipped for the Base Build Price, 550Hp LS3, S4 Trans w/ Chevy Bell Housing for the BIG clutch, Holley Electronics, 3.0 / 2.5 KINGS with Bypasses, Full Body, JetTrim Seats, KC Lights, OMF Beadlocks and the list goes on and on......How can Allan do this in today's market.....Have you seen his shop/setup....the Dude can do 90% of the car all in-house, he has an Engine Building Room that looks better than most of the engine builders we all know, he has his own in-floor Chassis Dyno, he cuts his own aluminum, laser cutting machine, King Adam The Great does all of the final aluminum bodies...and the list goes on and on.
I looked at SCU, Funco and SU....for the money and lead time (4-5 months) is was a no brainer to go with Extreme Performance....and If you've been watching the new DR1's are performing really well in Glamis, Allan and his Team have been hitting it hard out there to show what the cars can really do.....I'll keep you posted on the progress of my car....should start kicking into high gear soon!

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Sounds like a great car for a good price compared to some others. I have a new Funco build on their shop floor right now so I am keenly aware of the costs there. Of course, not the same car and has lots more power, bigger trans, more stuff, etc. So you can't really compare the two just on cost and I have zero regrets going with Funco thus far. But sure sounds like you are getting a great car at a good value in today's market. Congrats!
 
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