New shoes for my truck, what are you guys running?

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Sharp looking setup there Dale đź‘Ť

285/70/17 Toyo AT3s on my crew cab long bed LBZ currently. Not impressed, wearing super fast, pretty loud and have horrible wet traction. Had the OG Toyos back in the day and they were great. Best luck I've had so far was the OG Nitto Terra Grappler A/T. ~65k miles out of them, wore super even, quiet, balanced really well, great all around traction, super stable towing the old 5er. Tried a set of K02s after the Nittos, had a constant shaking problem and killed fuel mileage. Discount took them back and put on a set of Cooper ATPs. Those had a bad habit of cupping and were LOUD as soon as they'd start to do that. Will be going with AT4W Falkens on the next set.
 
dbart said:
Almost 50k miles
on this thing already, 3 years old, 2024 2500 AT4, picked it up in June 2023, love the truck but it was time for tires.
Went a little bigger than stock, BFG A/T KO3, 295/65 R20
Ended up doing 1/2 turn on the torsion no rub at full lock to the left, just barely hits at full lock to the right.
Love them. And they don't hum.
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Picked up a F150 a fey years back. That’s the exact size and tire I need. What are they going for these days if you don’t mind me asking.
 
Sierra4x4 said:
Picked up a F150 a fey years back. That’s the exact size and tire I need. What are they going for these days if you don’t mind me asking.
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Americas tire, $2400 OTD with mounting, Balancing and disposal of old tires.
The 20" rims are what brings the price way up!
Owwie!
 
dbart said:
Americas tire, $2400 OTD with mounting, Balancing and disposal of old tires.
The 20" rims are what brings the price way up!
Owwie!
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Why I avoided any option package that increased wheel size
 
Came here for a follow up and to ask the same question as Dbart.

I recommended Kanati and unfortunately just yesterday I had one separate with only 8k miles on them. I'll be on a call with them Monday to see if they are going to warranty just the one tire, or all 4 or what their recommendation is.

Here are the tires I have ran, their mileage at separation and specs of the truck.

3 different trucks, all CCLB 2500hd or 3500hd SRW Duramax. tire size is 35x12.50r18 and running the same method wheels 18x9 -12 offset. I've kept the wheels every time I have traded trucks.

Toyo MT separated around the 3 year mark, less than 20k miles

Nitto Ridge Grappler separated around the 3 year mark, right around 20k miles

Gladiator xcomp XT separated at just over a year, 8,000 miles ( I was wrong in my earlier post )

Kanati Commandant separated at 1.5 years, around 8,000 miles

My experience with the toyo and Nitto led me to believe it wasn't worth running expensive tires if they weren't going to last. But now with these last 2 maybe 3 years was pretty good. I'm stuck, I always rotate my tires at 5k miles, I always air up to 75psi cold to tow a trailer and run them around 65 front and 55 rear when unloaded. I don't drive a ton in the rocks or do any burnouts etc to abuse the tires.

When I originally reached out to Kanati, I explained all of this and they recommended the commandant. I bought from them directly so that if this issue happened again, I would have some recourse. We'll see what they say on Monday. But until then, I'm stuck to wonder if it's something I'm doing wrong or if tires are just not designed to hold up to these heavy trucks. Maybe it's the size I'm running, or the AZ heat, who knows!
 
Toy Collector said:
18” wheel, no more.
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That's all I've ran for almost 10 years and could be the cause of my problem. I see plenty of guys towing with big wheel and tire combos and run the tires to near bald. I can't get a set of 35s to last. Seriously considering a 20x10 to square up the tire and minimize tire flex.
 
realtreeHD said:
That's all I've ran for almost 10 years and could be the cause of my problem. I see plenty of guys towing with big wheel and tire combos and run the tires to near bald. I can't get a set of 35s to last. Seriously considering a 20x10 to square up the tire and minimize tire flex.
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Now I’m curious…..dodge 2500 6.7 pulling a 32’ genesis. 20” wheels and the tires always seem to wear pretty good as long as I keep up on rotations…..
Was thinking about going back to a 17” or 18” tire wheel combo…..is the consensus that it will wear quicker? I’m thinking it will ride better, not sure on wear

Edit to add…..I think your wife is my vet in queen creek 👍
 
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realtreeHD said:
That's all I've ran for almost 10 years and could be the cause of my problem. I see plenty of guys towing with big wheel and tire combos and run the tires to near bald. I can't get a set of 35s to last. Seriously considering a 20x10 to square up the tire and minimize tire flex.
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Have you considered maybe something is defective with your wheels causing the tire problem ? Seems coincidental you've kept the wheels and moved them to different trucks and started having tire problems.
 
realtreeHD said:
That's all I've ran for almost 10 years and could be the cause of my problem. I see plenty of guys towing with big wheel and tire combos and run the tires to near bald. I can't get a set of 35s to last. Seriously considering a 20x10 to square up the tire and minimize tire flex.
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I've never had a tire separation issue.

Granted, I don't tow more than 10,000 lbs but I've had this truck since December of 2007 and have ran a few tires on it over it's lifetime. It's been all over the West side of the US, even up to see Bouy... overloaded with a 31' Blaze'n.

I've always owned multiple vehicle at a time that all have different, dedicated uses and have never had tire issues, ever (Street racing, Offroading, Daily Driving).

All of my 4runners have had BFG's (KO, KO2, KO3).

Integra ran Nitto's 95% of the time.

Tundra has had various manufacturers.

I'm with Jim... it sounds like something else may be an issue for you. My brother is a cheap, neglectful mess of a truck owner and has never had any tire issues on any of his 2500 or 3500's. Dude even ran Super Swamper Thornbirds with success.
 
AZ Dry heat takes a toll on tires, the scorching heat you guys have, that pavement gets hot and destroys tread life.

How many people have separation issues in AZ vs CA peeps...its real.
 
while I am no longer towing and now buying tires for off roading, I run my tires at 40lbs now. I think when I had my F350, I towed around 65lbs. I found the higher the psi the more wear. I almost always get 50k miles out of tires.

FYI, when I see someone running 20" wheels, I know they are pavement princesses. :ROFLMAO:
 
On my 1997 dodge 2500 4x4 diesel I have been running what ever AT BFG was available at the time never a failure don’t know the mileage for all the sets truck currently has 490,000
Just bought another ram 2024 2500 rebel 4x4 diesel got it with 18,000 in January has factory Goodyears 285/60/20 this truck is way faster and better handling than the old one
The factory tires are not up to the on road performance i expect so this will be may next set
They will be fine in. Glamis or any place I will actually drive it IMG_4727.pngIMG_4275.jpeg
 
Update, Just got the tires back from Big O. I had them inspect and dismount all 4. 2 of the tires are separating for sure and a 3rd is questionable. Kanati is sending return labels for the 3 tires and will run them through their inspection process which should take about 2 weeks. Then I will report back.

No one I've talked to has an answer to why this keeps happening but you guys are all spot on with your thoughts and comments. My plan at this point is to sell the wheels and run a 20x10 on a 35" tire. Not sure which tire yet.

I'll go ahead and change my name to pvmtprincessHD when I get the new set up! :LOL:
 
while I’m not a tire expert I buy lots of tires with 5 simi trucks and their trailers plus 3 wheel loaders I have about 200 tires on the ground with air in them plus another 20 in stock at parkhouse tire so I will tell you what I think
If they have not been damaged by overheating due to under inflation they are an inferior product,is it a brand problem ?
Maybe or just a bad run on that product.
I judge a tire differently than most,looks don’t matter off road traction doesn’t matter mud traction totally irrelevant for Southern California even wet traction while nice to have is not very important most of the time

I know you a waiting with baited breath to hear my sage advice
2 things matter most for your on road tires will they go the distance safely, run until bald without a blowout and dry stopping distance
The difference between 2 tires of the same size but different tread and different manufacturer can be 50 feet from 60 to 0 that can be the difference between a close call and a ride in a hearse
If you get a tire that has a good dry stopping distance then it will usually have a decent wet stopping and good Turning performance
You can find all this info on tire rack for free or consumer repots if you pay for it
I pay for consumer repots and check with them before buying about anything and while my new Ram is not rated as highly as I would like I accept its faults knowing
Now my TV, home computer and air fryer are all top rated as there is know other way to make an informed decision on all the things that family needs.
So in general I find Michelin or continental
are top of the line for my personal cars and I think the BFG are made by Michelin
And for my real trucks I run a mix Mostly Yokohama on a price per 32th of a inch tread depth they win
Michelin tire tread last longer but because of how many nail repairs we get I lose the casings and cannot recap as many times plus the number damaged do to rocks and other job site hazards i cannot justify them on the dump trucks
Now the lowbed gets only continental on the back of the trailer 16 tire murray the only other option is the double coin( I think that’s right brand ) while price is a little cheaper it’s not enough for me to change
I’m currently running yokahama on the steers and continental on the drives
 
Crusty said:
AZ Dry heat takes a toll on tires, the scorching heat you guys have, that pavement gets hot and destroys tread life.

How many people have separation issues in AZ vs CA peeps...its real.
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This may be a large part of the problem, I didn't even think about it and consider that he was from AZ. A quick look into this shows tire life is 2-3 years shorter than basically anywhere else in the US.

I just walked by my Tundra the other day and decided to buy some tire covers for it, since it's only used once a week and the tires just sit in the sun. If I lived in AZ, I'd definitely buy some tire covers for truck tires considering what these things cost.
 
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