Moving to a free state?

After being born and bred in San Diego, I moved out of CA to OK in August 2020, was a very difficult decision, but I knew in order for me to eventually retire and have some sort of life after work I needed to leave CA. After being here for just a few months it has been the best decision. So many more freedoms and much nicer people in general. 

I left ALOT in CA, but it was a change that needed to happen.

 
Hey Ian. Hope all is well and business is booming for you. 
Mike & Sheryl Wager

 
Screamin Ian said:
After being born and bred in San Diego, I moved out of CA to OK in August 2020, was a very difficult decision, but I knew in order for me to eventually retire and have some sort of life after work I needed to leave CA. After being here for just a few months it has been the best decision. So many more freedoms and much nicer people in general. 

I left ALOT in CA, but it was a change that needed to happen.
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I can't wait to write a post like this one! I X the days off the calander each and everyday! I am trying to make the best out of a hard situation.....It eats away at you like cancer! We have been driven to leave the best place in the USA to live out of here....IT SUCKS!

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We left ca due to politics mostly then cost of things second.Moved to az love it although i can still work at my old job which i do at times because they are understaffed and now my pay doubled when i work but ii will work wed through sat come home then 2 weeks later so the same.

I emjoy the less traffic and midweek lake trips,desert shooting too plus drive to glamis is only 10 miles more from my oc house but no more 91fwy or whitewater traffic going home.As for politics we vote red and registered to vote asap we dont want to see a ca again.

 
BRANDON LONG said:
I have been very busy moving people out of the state the last few years. In the past when we sold a house and moved a family out of state it was for a job transfer or retirement. Most of them lately have been selling in CA to move to a red state. 

Having that said the buyers have been young families that have previously been renting and now purchasing. The trend is definitely real. 
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Just curious Brandon, who are buying these houses in Cali? everybody says they are leaving Cali but someone has to be buying those houses.

 
DOGGY said:
Just curious Brandon, who are buying these houses in Cali? everybody says they are leaving Cali but someone has to be buying those houses.
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The trend has been people with equity are selling and leaving the state. Often times paying cash or mostly cash. The people that are buying the homes have mostly been first time buyer or young families. With rents as high as they are and rates as low as they are it is much easier for a first time buyer that was renting to now purchase. Younger families that started off small are also taking their equity and upgrading to larger family homes. 

 
A lot of good discussion on this.

My wife and I moved this past year.  We bought the house in Havasu as a second home to use for vacation and such.  We stayed here for 2 weeks and on day 10, decided to go back and sell the house in San Diego.  The new owner asked to buy my furniture and such.  We packed out clothes, personal belongings and left.  I haven't looked back.

It's cheaper living, nicer people, FEWER people, more like minded people...the list goes on.  

I have watched this trend for some time though.  A California conservative is a liberal elsewhere.  You ave no idea how much you've accepted that other states and communities haven't.  I've been pretty stuck in my ways and refused to accept things in CA so moving let me fit right back in with more conservative values.  

Another way to look at this is liberals are taking a page from the terrorists and history.  If we can't get them to comply and follow us, we'll infiltrate and destroy them from within.  So...are liberals intentionally moving to conservative strongholds to destroy them?  The current administration was shipping ILLEGALS to Idaho and Montana...intentionally.  If you let them in, send them to liberal states and cities.  Let them deal with them.

 

 
Mac said:
A lot of good discussion on this.

My wife and I moved this past year.  We bought the house in Havasu as a second home to use for vacation and such.  We stayed here for 2 weeks and on day 10, decided to go back and sell the house in San Diego.  The new owner asked to buy my furniture and such.  We packed out clothes, personal belongings and left.  I haven't looked back.

It's cheaper living, nicer people, FEWER people, more like minded people...the list goes on.  

I have watched this trend for some time though.  A California conservative is a liberal elsewhere.  You ave no idea how much you've accepted that other states and communities haven't.  I've been pretty stuck in my ways and refused to accept things in CA so moving let me fit right back in with more conservative values.  

Another way to look at this is liberals are taking a page from the terrorists and history.  If we can't get them to comply and follow us, we'll infiltrate and destroy them from within.  So...are liberals intentionally moving to conservative strongholds to destroy them?  The current administration was shipping ILLEGALS to Idaho and Montana...intentionally.  If you let them in, send them to liberal states and cities.  Let them deal with them.

 
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Mac - we moved to Havasu last July, mostly because my kids got to physically go to school.  I have a 3rd grader and a 9th grader (freshman).  I wanted my oldest girl to have a steady 4 years at 1 school, and we had talked about moving.  I told my wife - now, or never.  We pulled the lever and haven't regretted it!!  I got my parents to sell after 44 years in Glendora and move about 1/2 mile from us in Havasu! 

I haven't regretted it for a minute!  I love being around the like minded people, and it has helped us to stay sane during the Covid crap going on! 

 
We decided to get a little further away from Cali.  Bought a house in St. George, Utah the summer of 2018. We'd been riding up in this area for the last 10 years at that point.  Plan was to rent the house out for 3-5 years then retire.   That was the year CA allowed ballot harvesting then delayed the tally for a week after the election (got the results 'they' wanted).   At that point decided it'd just be a one year plan.  Now the Rzr is street legal. Bought a big, 2 up quad (street legal)  Drive out of the garage out into the hills, or over to Sand Hollow for some dunes or air down for some fun rock crawling.  Finding the cost of living is half.  (before the house buying boom) Seems about 85% of the Cali expats are like minded.  The other's seem to have no idea why they moved here.  Shocked it's hot in the summer months, and it doesn't rain much. In the spring and fall Sunday evenings reminds us of when you stay that extra night in the desert, and you hear a bike or buggy playing out in the distance. It's calming.  And a majority of the COVID BS mostly ended last May.  Kids all went to school in August last year. There was a mask mandate that ended on April 10 of this year.  It's so nice going to a restaurant and seeing FACES.  We see Cali plated cars pull in, people mask up, walk into the restaurant, see nobody else wearing a mask... WHOOSH it's in their pocket!

 
were probably heading to Florida Totally red state

 
Race Face said:
We decided to get a little further away from Cali.  Bought a house in St. George, Utah the summer of 2018. We'd been riding up in this area for the last 10 years at that point.  Plan was to rent the house out for 3-5 years then retire.   That was the year CA allowed ballot harvesting then delayed the tally for a week after the election (got the results 'they' wanted).   At that point decided it'd just be a one year plan.  Now the Rzr is street legal. Bought a big, 2 up quad (street legal)  Drive out of the garage out into the hills, or over to Sand Hollow for some dunes or air down for some fun rock crawling.  Finding the cost of living is half.  (before the house buying boom) Seems about 85% of the Cali expats are like minded.  The other's seem to have no idea why they moved here.  Shocked it's hot in the summer months, and it doesn't rain much. In the spring and fall Sunday evenings reminds us of when you stay that extra night in the desert, and you hear a bike or buggy playing out in the distance. It's calming.  And a majority of the COVID BS mostly ended last May.  Kids all went to school in August last year. There was a mask mandate that ended on April 10 of this year.  It's so nice going to a restaurant and seeing FACES.  We see Cali plated cars pull in, people mask up, walk into the restaurant, see nobody else wearing a mask... WHOOSH it's in their pocket!
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We have been looking at this area for a couple of years, other than state taxes the prices for houses have gone crazy, not sure if I would really be saving any money now.  Glad you got in when you could.

 
We just closed escrow a couple months ago in Cedar City, Ut. My wife wanted some seasons and they are a bit behind St George area as far as demand / cost. Plan is to stay here in Ca a year and a half, but now I'm contemplating selling the company later this year and bailing... 

 
UT is really nice, bummer that housing prices are going up like they are.

 
Not leaving San Diego CA anytime soon.  Best place to live in the US in my opinion.  Just don't focus your life around politics and it won't get to you...don't live in a city in CA that is in a liberal neighborhood.  Move east away from the beaches - and buy an acre or more of land...Be happy in your yard, and don't worry about what they do in the big cities.  If you can afford to live here, why leave. (That's how i feel today at least)

 
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wesinls said:
Not leaving San Diego CA anytime soon.  Best place to live in the US in my opinion.  Just don't focus your life around politics and it won't get to you...don't live in a city in CA that is in a liberal neighborhood.  Move east away from the beaches - and buy an acre or more of land...Be happy in your yard, and don't worry about what they do in the big cities.  If you can afford to live here, why leave. (That's how i feel today at least)
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I agree with you, stay off Facebook and stay focused on you and your family and it becomes pretty easy.  I live in Ca where 90% of the people are Trump supporters, that's right, in SoCal where we love Conservatives.............also get to boat everyday without leaving my house.  Point being, there are places, just get further away from the downtowns and LA County. I haven't worn a mask in 9 months................

 
Boulevard is a nice exit to land permanently. Enjoy the seasons out there. Peace

 
Cookie said:
You can't let the process deter you.  Pelosi said the 2016 election was rigged when Trump won.  The point, the last couple of elections the loser has stated there is fraud.  This is our new norm, people cry foul when it doesn't go their way.  Conservatives need to keep voting and get more involve in every day politics even if you moved out of California.  Even local politics make a difference.
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THD said:
This ^^^^

We just voted in a local election, mostly county level and school board positions. We searched the net for background on the school board candidates to try and learn their ideology before casting our votes. It did not take much effort to discover the progressive socialist from the traditional conservative candidates. The progressive candidates love to pronounce their wokeness to the world. 

Vote in your local elections, it will have more impact on your day to day life than most think. Especially school board positions that will have a major impact on our youth and what they are taught!

And I will add that what happened in the 2020 Presidential election was more than political rhetoric, there was some targeted effective shenanigans in a few states that drastically altered the outcome. And because it was targeted to a few locations that had a major impact, it gave the left plausible deniability in regards to "wide spread" voter fraud. Just my opinion. 
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Update to what I posted about voting in local elections. Our county voted for Trump in the 2020 election, so it barely leans red. Yet the outcome of the local election shows that only 21% of voters participated and unfortunately the school board positions went to the liberal progressives. This does not bode well for our local schools. 

As Cookie said, even local politics make a difference.  

 
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