History Repeats Itself

[Lord of the Dunes]

No president is perfect, I judge them all on a scale from "not as bad as the others" to "the stupidest, most worthless, feeble, senile old meat puppet they could have possibly installed as POTUS."

For those who didn't like Trump's Tweets, I can understand it and I generally dismiss those most offended as snowflakes who can't handle anything they don't like to hear. I paid attention to what he actually did and I'm not on Twitter at all. However, based on the fallout, him melting snowflakes with a blowtorch just seemed like extra icing on the cake.

AFAIK, the entire system is corrupt on both sides due to career politicians holding themselves above the law, doing what corporate lobbyists tell them to do and forgetting their job is it do as we wish, not curry favor with the rich to stay in power. That was part of Trump's appeal, he was already rich, he didn't owe anyone anything and both sides of the swamp hated him equally. That told me he was doing a good job - when the average Joe loves you and the swamp wants you gone.

Trump isn't perfect by a long shot, he's definitely rough around the edges, but is there a better choice out there who will do what he says and not play the usual political games that accomplish nothing? Look at the SCOTUS decision. Why do they want to overturn Roe v Wade? Because Trump saw the need to stack the court in our favor nd he did so, despite massive howling from the left. Look how hard they attacked all of his picks for SCOTUS. Now look how the SC is starting to rule on issues. Would a less aggressive POTUS have accomplished that and set us up for the future that well? I don't think so.

If they can come up with an equally dedicated candidate who is more charismatic, I'm all for it.

 

[Cookie]

Just going to put this out there, If Trump runs, Democrats will get another 4 years.  Trumps days are done and if he runs as an Independent, he will split the conservative votes.  Trump polarized the masses, he did this himself.  We can blame the Democrat's, but in the end he bullied everyone, even the people he hired.

As who the Democrat's will put out there to run??  Could be Biden again, doubt it.  Harris isn't making friends, maybe Hillary.

For some reason I thing Romney isn't done.  I do think DeSantis has a chance, but in the end, both sides need to find someone that is more middle to get all the votes.

 

[Lord of the Dunes]

Just going to put this out there, If Trump runs, Democrats will get another 4 years.  Trumps days are done and if he runs as an Independent, he will split the conservative votes.  Trump polarized the masses, he did this himself.  We can blame the Democrat's, but in the end he bullied everyone, even the people he hired.

As who the Democrat's will put out there to run??  Could be Biden again, doubt it.  Harris isn't making friends, maybe Hillary.

For some reason I thing Romney isn't done.  I do think DeSantis has a chance, but in the end, both sides need to find someone that is more middle to get all the votes.

Do you feel that Biden is doing a good job? Do you feel that the rest of the nation will vote Dumbocrat after 4 yrs of his hyper inflation, continued crazy aggression from Russia and probably similar aggression from China taking over Taiwan and North Korea getting froggy as well since they can smell senility from 1,000 mi away? Between now and 2024, I think Biden is going to make us miss the good old days of right now. Inflation screws us all, including the morons who voted him in. I'm hoping they're smart enough (just above caterpillar intellect) to realize they focked up in 2020 and they won't repeat that mistake. Apparently, a lot of voters base their choice on "no more of this clown/political party, let's try the other guy."

If the GOP doesn't come up with a better option than Trump, I'm thinking the easily swayed middle ground people might suck it up and vote Trump. 

 

[Rockwood]

Just going to put this out there, If Trump runs, Democrats will get another 4 years.  Trumps days are done and if he runs as an Independent, he will split the conservative votes.  Trump polarized the masses, he did this himself.  We can blame the Democrat's, but in the end he bullied everyone, even the people he hired.

As who the Democrat's will put out there to run??  Could be Biden again, doubt it.  Harris isn't making friends, maybe Hillary.

For some reason I thing Romney isn't done.  I do think DeSantis has a chance, but in the end, both sides need to find someone that is more middle to get all the votes.

Yep. Media cut up his quotes and made him look like an ass…

But they were still his quotes.

 

[Schmidty]

God, I hope your wrong.

Example "a" was Larry Elder , and the mafia's nephew that is steadily tearing kommiefornia to shreds. If you think that was a fair outcome, you are part of the problem.. The corruption in florida in 2016 was your first glimpse of the "glitch". and what the "machine" is capable of... The "glitch was was shored up in 2020, and 2021.. as stated, I highly doubt you will see that mistake made again.. Pretty sure the act of voting has become just that.. An ACT. .....I agree, I "hope" I am wrong, but unfortunately, I do not think so.

 

[Cookie]

Do you feel that Biden is doing a good job? Do you feel that the rest of the nation will vote Dumbocrat after 4 yrs of his hyper inflation, continued crazy aggression from Russia and probably similar aggression from China taking over Taiwan and North Korea getting froggy as well since they can smell senility from 1,000 mi away? Between now and 2024, I think Biden is going to make us miss the good old days of right now. Inflation screws us all, including the morons who voted him in. I'm hoping they're smart enough (just above caterpillar intellect) to realize they focked up in 2020 and they won't repeat that mistake. Apparently, a lot of voters base their choice on "no more of this clown/political party, let's try the other guy."

If the GOP doesn't come up with a better option than Trump, I'm thinking the easily swayed middle ground people might suck it up and vote Trump. 

I do not think Biden is doing a good job, not sure how anyone can think that.  Whatever party puts out a middle of the ground competent person will win the election.  If both candidates are polarizing, who knows.  Trump needs to step aside and let someone younger and more polished take the reigns.  And with all the court proceedings he needs to go thru, just doesn't make sense for the GOP to embrace him either.   But then you could be right, Biden still has two more years to really Fuuck things up.

 

[Lord of the Dunes]

I do not think Biden is doing a good job, not sure how anyone can think that.  Whatever party puts out a middle of the ground competent person will win the election.  If both candidates are polarizing, who knows.  Trump needs to step aside and let someone younger and more polished take the reigns.  And with all the court proceedings he needs to go thru, just doesn't make sense for the GOP to embrace him either.   But then you could be right, Biden still has two more years to really Fuuck things up.

We both agree that Biden is a nightmare for this country and also that even those who voted for him are probably regretting it now. I personally wasn't bothered by Trump's Tweets and interviews, but unfortunately a large portion of our population are snowflakes and cannot tell the difference between what a person says and what they do. This is also why we, as a nation, always fall for the biggest lying POS and elect him to office, rather than those who really want to do what's best for the country.

Ronald Reagan is a prime example of someone who was a better actor than President. The majority of the public still think of him as a great POTUS, but he bears a huge portion of the blame for the Wall St collapse of 2008. He pushed for and signed laws deregulating the banking industry, mistakenly thinking that bankers would do what's best for the economy, the country. Sadly, he completely underestimated their level of greed and sociopathic tendencies which led them to go from 4:1 leverage ratios (by law) to up to 100:1, which overextended them and forced them into bankruptcy and the near collapse of the world economy. When faced with the choice of giving themselves bonuses for creating and selling CDSs and derivatives and buying a 3rd house in the Hamptons or exercising fiduciary responsibility and safely protecting the retirement accounts of millions of people, they chose the house in the Hamptons and said, "screw all of the little people." The fact that he bowed to their pressure and didn't see who they really were caused us all to pay for it.

As for 2024, you're right, most people want someone more middle of the road and more charismatic. If they don't find that guy or gal, I'll vote for Trump again over any creature, regardless of gender or pronoun, coming from the left. I am categorically opposed to their entire platform of open borders, first grade teachers coercing kids into transgender roles, raise more taxes then waste the money on people who are illegal or don't work, their increasing socialism, etc, all of it.

Although the Dumbocrats claim to be the party of the people, the top 1% got wealthier, faster under Obama than at any time previous. Who knows if there will ever be a middle class again.

 

[Mac]

For some reason I thing Romney isn't done.  I do think DeSantis has a chance, but in the end, both sides need to find someone that is more middle to get all the votes.

Romney is a big POS!  I never liked him, never will.  Romney only wants to be president for Romney.

 

[Rockwood]

You guys watch too much CNN.... Trump was the guy, the media did him in.  They learned from Trump they can and WILL destroy any republican....heck if Desantis runs you guys will be saying he is no good by the time CNN gets done with him.... Trump was surrounded by Traitors the ENTIRE time he was in the office, he trusted the Republican party and it  F'd him and Us HARD.........It is really a Nation of us against them now, the Washington Swamp is deep. My guess is you'll never see another "outsider" get elected, they have fixed the glitch. 

Just noticed this....

Literally no one watches CNN.  

I think 90% of those less than 1M "viewers" are TVs in airports and waiting rooms...  No.  I don't watch CNN.  

Trump had good policies, and got a lot of good things done, but he was repugnant.  This gave CNN/MSNBC plenty of fodder for their evening "WTF did Trump say today" sessions where they pretended to be "reporters"...  Like I said earlier in this thread: yes.  They chopped his quotes up, but he still said the words.  In his first year, sure, this would be expected, but he consistently refused to "leave on a high note"

 

[dbart]

No president is perfect, I judge them all on a scale from "not as bad as the others" to "the stupidest, most worthless, feeble, senile old meat puppet they could have possibly installed as POTUS."

For those who didn't like Trump's Tweets, I can understand it and I generally dismiss those most offended as snowflakes who can't handle anything they don't like to hear. I paid attention to what he actually did and I'm not on Twitter at all. However, based on the fallout, him melting snowflakes with a blowtorch just seemed like extra icing on the cake.

AFAIK, the entire system is corrupt on both sides due to career politicians holding themselves above the law, doing what corporate lobbyists tell them to do and forgetting their job is it do as we wish, not curry favor with the rich to stay in power. That was part of Trump's appeal, he was already rich, he didn't owe anyone anything and both sides of the swamp hated him equally. That told me he was doing a good job - when the average Joe loves you and the swamp wants you gone.

Trump isn't perfect by a long shot, he's definitely rough around the edges, but is there a better choice out there who will do what he says and not play the usual political games that accomplish nothing? Look at the SCOTUS decision. Why do they want to overturn Roe v Wade? Because Trump saw the need to stack the court in our favor nd he did so, despite massive howling from the left. Look how hard they attacked all of his picks for SCOTUS. Now look how the SC is starting to rule on issues. Would a less aggressive POTUS have accomplished that and set us up for the future that well? I don't think so.

If they can come up with an equally dedicated candidate who is more charismatic, I'm all for it.

Agreed!

The reason I voted for Trump was because he WASN'T a POLITICIAN, that and Hillary is just a Super BITCH and needs to be in Jail!!!!

Career Politician's are all corrupt and all about self preservation...