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South Bay said:
Private sector is now or will soon be mandating proof of vaccination / negative tests (courts have already ruled in favor of this).

Next concert you go to, chances are this policy will be in place (see Lalapolooza last week in Chicago) .  Restaurants and movie theaters moving in this direction as well.  Will it be easier for you to get tested, vaccinated, or not go to a show at all?
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Yep, been following this.  Short of not being able to go to a grocery store, I do not see this as a problem yet.

 
In Mexico, they take your temp everywhere.  Pretty easy, if your temperature is high, you don't get to enter.  Everyone gets tested, no need to worry about the vaccine and  conspiracy theories.

Really have no idea if this helps or not, but interesting way of dealing with it.  FYI, they also make you walk into a bath of sort for your shoes, I am not aware of any transmissions from my flip flops....................

 
I DGAF if proof is required to go anywhere! NEVER!! I don't need to go anywhere, especially if all that happens is running into a bunch dumb ass sheep. You can take your vax and your masks and shove them so far up yours!! 

Grocery store - don't need them. Can order my food and have delivered.
Bank - haven't stepped in a bank in 10 years. it's called online banking. 
clothing = online.
booze and Drugs = online. 
Movies LOL idgaf
Restaurants ehh who cares, nothing but a bunch of sheep

You may carry on now... LOL
 

 
Cookie said:
I don't believe people will line up and get the vaccine even if it was FDA approved.  To me it is a mute  moot point anymore.  People that wanted it have gotten it, and those that don't are strongly opposed to it, for whatever reasons.  Politics and trust of the government aren't going to change anytime soon.  Even if Trump came out and said get the Vaccine because he developed it, people still won't get it.  Covid isn't going away anytime soon, the Flu hasn't.  

My long range thoughts, this will shorten our overall life expectancy, "Survival of the Fittest", Natural Selection.
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1) 😄

2) I thought Trump already did say to get it?? (edited to add he did state that back in March, 2021)

 
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HEADINJURY said:
I DGAF if proof is required to go anywhere! NEVER!! I don't need to go anywhere, especially if all that happens is running into a bunch dumb ass sheep. You can take your vax and your masks and shove them so far up yours!! 

Grocery store - don't need them. Can order my food and have delivered.
Bank - haven't stepped in a bank in 10 years. it's called online banking. 
clothing = online.
booze and Drugs = online. 
Movies LOL idgaf
Restaurants ehh who cares, nothing but a bunch of sheep

You may carry on now... LOL

100% agree HI!

We never go to the movies and almost never eat out as it is now. Making it "never" from "almost never" wouldn't be a big loss

Wish I could get booze delivered..lol....but don't mind the mask for 3 minutes IF they ever say anything at the liquor store (they never have ).

And yes, the rest gets done online.
 
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FYI the temp thing does not mean anything.  we took thousands of temp checks @ work over the last year & a half & it is completely meaningless.

 
HEADINJURY said:
I DGAF if proof is required to go anywhere! NEVER!! I don't need to go anywhere, especially if all that happens is running into a bunch dumb ass sheep. You can take your vax and your masks and shove them so far up yours!! 

Grocery store - don't need them. Can order my food and have delivered.
Bank - haven't stepped in a bank in 10 years. it's called online banking. 
clothing = online.
booze and Drugs = online. 
Movies LOL idgaf
Restaurants ehh who cares, nothing but a bunch of sheep

You may carry on now... LOL
 
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I get what your saying and I support your right to say it and do as you please.

Sure you can make it thru all of those things by delivery and online stuff, but what about your JOB. What happens if they say say no Vax card no work the RV show's ? What happens when they say no person to person sales with out a vax card. How long will you survive selling RV's from your basement ? 

BTW I am not anti VAX or anti Mask I am just anti Mandate.

 
MWB said:
I get what your saying and I support your right to say it and do as you please.

Sure you can make it thru all of those things by delivery and online stuff, but what about your JOB. What happens if they say say no Vax card no work the RV show's ? What happens when they say no person to person sales with out a vax card. How long will you survive selling RV's from your basement ? 

BTW I am not anti VAX or anti Mask I am just anti Mandate.
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Well fortunately I'm very close to retirement. So I won't be needing a job anytime soon. My basement!!!! LOL You mean off the grid somewhere.... HA HA

 
Bobalos said:
FYI the temp thing does not mean anything.  we took thousands of temp checks @ work over the last year & a half & it is completely meaningless.
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Any time here that the boss got a higher than normal reading, he'd hit the thing a couple times and then say "oh, we know these aren't very accurate anyway"

 
People need to stop stating this is political...You're basically saying the entire world is going off the direction of the US government - which is ridiculous.  

 
wesinls said:
People need to stop stating this is political...You're basically saying the entire world is going off the direction of the US government - which is ridiculous.  
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How can you say it is not.

Tell a Liberal you don't want to get the Vaccine, They tell you Trump is not President any more and you need to get the shot. Even though Trump was the one who got the vaccine started and had it approved for emergency use before he left office. Plus he will tell you to get the shot it's safe he got it but supports your right not to do so. 

 
The virus itself is real. The fact that it has been elevated to the status of a global killer is entirely, 100%, without a doubt, political. And yes, the rest of the world is following suit because of how serious it has been made to be. 

There are countless citizens of many, if not most, countries in the world that don’t give two Craps about what America says or does. But you can be sure that everyone of their governments cares deeply and pays close attention to the United States government. Admittedly they only care about the money we give them, but they do care.

 
AlpineFunco said:
The virus itself is real. The fact that it has been elevated to the status of a global killer is entirely, 100%, without a doubt, political. And yes, the rest of the world is following suit because of how serious it has been made to be. 

There are countless citizens of many, if not most, countries in the world that don’t give two Craps about what America says or does. But you can be sure that everyone of their governments cares deeply and pays close attention to the United States government. Admittedly they only care about the money we give them, but they do care.
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I agree..........

I am currently reading a report on other country's that are currently on lockdown, this is for work and supply issues.  The country's I am looking at are China, Bangladesh, India, Cambodia, Indonesia, Philippines, and Vietnam.  Every country is either lock downed or partially lock downed right now.  What this means for Fall US retail, you thought last year was bad, it might be worse for US retailers (no product) for the next 6 months or more.  This is only production, not transportation related issues.  For the life of me I can't figure out how our Democratic party is controlling all these lockdowns and the virus 🤪

The politicians/media have made the vaccine political, but that is about it.

 
wesinls said:
People need to stop stating this is political...You're basically saying the entire world is going off the direction of the US government - which is ridiculous.  
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another example.... few months ago CDC releases its guidelines for schools to reopen. the teachers union didnt like what the CDC said, complained to the politicians, since the teachers union is such a big donator to one political party the politicians made CDC change their guidelines and the person at the CDC that was in charge of those guidelines was reassigned to a different project. 

many democratic mayors and other positions of power have been caught breaking their own covid rules. remember when a lady on the board of supervisors in LA voted to close in door dinning, then right after her vote went out to a restaurant to eat. newsome telling us to put on a mask in between bites and sit 6 feet apart, yet goes to fancy dinner with lobbyists. our kids struggle with distance learning but his kids are in school everyday. he makes other businesses close while his winery is open and reservations booked solid. the mayor of DC said her travel to a biden victory party was essential travel. mayor of austin tells everyone they need to stay home but he made that statement while on vacation in mexico. mayor of MI tells everyone they have to stay home but caught making travel plans a few times. i could keep going but i think you get the point. lets not forget about last summers riots that were encouraged by those same politicians. governors threaten lockdowns yet the boarder is wide open with estimated mininium 20% having covid yet they are all packed in centers and busses and planes with no type of covid protocol, but now we have to show a proof of vaccine just to go out and get dinner.

go back to the beginning of all this, one side is telling people come out to times square go out to eat dont listen to the white house. then calling trump racist for shutting down flights. then all of a sudden they do a 180 and yell trump does do enough. facuci has flip floped more than a fish out of water. when TX opened up a the begging of the year newsome goes out and calls tx gov a fool and reckless, yet their numbers were lower than CA.  

how can we take things seriously when the people that tell us to follow the science and we are all in this together yet they do what they want when they want and impose rules that make zero sense just because they want more power and we are just suppose to follow blindly. 

its been political from the start, its has not been about following science and beating covid its been about who can benefit the most politically from it. the Dems played that hand very hard and it got them the Whitehouse. 

 
I just can't get over the lies and deceit. Who do you trust? The numbers are all Greek to me. Credibility is non -existent with the country pertaining to any and all GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS. Country, state, county , city doesn't matter. The people of California are getting the shaft sooo bad, they have no idea. It's 1000 times worse than anyone thinks or has been brought public.  I know people on the inside. His name is E.F Hutton, and when E.F Hutton talks, people listen... 

Noticed not one mention of any political parties. The extreme left, right and center needs to pull their HEADS OUT! 
This problem is NOT going away. Good luck to all and mankind as we know it. 8/12/2021

 
MWB said:
How can you say it is not.

Tell a Liberal you don't want to get the Vaccine, They tell you Trump is not President any more and you need to get the shot. Even though Trump was the one who got the vaccine started and had it approved for emergency use before he left office. Plus he will tell you to get the shot it's safe he got it but supports your right not to do so. 
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Again, stop making it political...re-write your entire comment and word it without the words Trump, liberal, etc.  I voted for Trump, i got the vaccine because I felt it was the right thing to do...and I'll tell you what, that decision had ZERO to do with Trump or Biden.  Both sides are doing it too...It's a total joke and unprofessional.  We need unity in this as its a GLOBAL issue - NOT a dem repub issue, period.  We will be in this same scenario until we have unity.

 
jareddustin said:
another example.... few months ago CDC releases its guidelines for schools to reopen. the teachers union didnt like what the CDC said, complained to the politicians, since the teachers union is such a big donator to one political party the politicians made CDC change their guidelines and the person at the CDC that was in charge of those guidelines was reassigned to a different project. 

many democratic mayors and other positions of power have been caught breaking their own covid rules. remember when a lady on the board of supervisors in LA voted to close in door dinning, then right after her vote went out to a restaurant to eat. newsome telling us to put on a mask in between bites and sit 6 feet apart, yet goes to fancy dinner with lobbyists. our kids struggle with distance learning but his kids are in school everyday. he makes other businesses close while his winery is open and reservations booked solid. the mayor of DC said her travel to a biden victory party was essential travel. mayor of austin tells everyone they need to stay home but he made that statement while on vacation in mexico. mayor of MI tells everyone they have to stay home but caught making travel plans a few times. i could keep going but i think you get the point. lets not forget about last summers riots that were encouraged by those same politicians. governors threaten lockdowns yet the boarder is wide open with estimated mininium 20% having covid yet they are all packed in centers and busses and planes with no type of covid protocol, but now we have to show a proof of vaccine just to go out and get dinner.

go back to the beginning of all this, one side is telling people come out to times square go out to eat dont listen to the white house. then calling trump racist for shutting down flights. then all of a sudden they do a 180 and yell trump does do enough. facuci has flip floped more than a fish out of water. when TX opened up a the begging of the year newsome goes out and calls tx gov a fool and reckless, yet their numbers were lower than CA.  

how can we take things seriously when the people that tell us to follow the science and we are all in this together yet they do what they want when they want and impose rules that make zero sense just because they want more power and we are just suppose to follow blindly. 

its been political from the start, its has not been about following science and beating covid its been about who can benefit the most politically from it. the Dems played that hand very hard and it got them the Whitehouse. 
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A lot of what you stated is true - and its more of an example of people that have no integrity, not necessarily because of their political views.  Newson in example, total douche - regardless of his political side...poor decisions.

Our country is divided - and most of it is because people are making it political vs what is best to keep people from getting sick, out of hospitals, put all of us back to work, etc.  Libs this, Trumpers that, blah blah - it's a Effing joke and reminds me of a junior high fight.

Make your decision  / opinions about the vaccine on what you feel is the right thing to do - not related to what the politicians are saying.  Dr's should be speaking to it more than politicians.

 
wesinls said:
Dr's should be speaking to it more than politicians
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Yes they should and they should be honest...but Liberalism is a mental disorder....and most dr.s are liberals...so you can't trust them either...the ones that spoke out about the hydrochlorowhatever were DESTROYED  by their peers and the media....sorry  EVERYTHING is political now...the liberals can smell blood and only months away from damaging this country beyond repair....Covid is their horse and they are going to ride it till it drops.... What is the "right" thing to do?  Get a vaccine so you can spread Covid without knowing you have it?  Take your chances with a disease with a 99.8% survival rate? Hell if you get Covid...THEY EffING SEND YOU HOME....NO MEDS JUST GO HOME AND GET BETTER...... They are letting MILLIONS of infected people in the southern border.....I guess they really don't care do they????  

 
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