Have you watched "Adolescence" on Netflix?

[TheSPAINishLover]

As a father, it's the most heart-breaking thing I've ever watched on film.

It broke me by bringing out feelings and emotions I'd never experienced before.

It also helped me to understand how my HS best friend's parent's felt when he was arrested and convicted for a series of armed robberies/heists inspired by watching gangster/mafia movies. The guy was a model-looking kid with the gift of charisma and gaff (he banged the hottest teach on campus the night after graduation). He was a semi-pro flat-land freestyler before HS and talented soccer player. Yet the "romanticism, respect, and superiority" of that Italian gang/life was too attractive to him. The guy never studied or opened a book yet had a 3.9gpa when we graduated. I'll never forget the call I received 18-20 months after we graduated informing me that he had been caught. He served 10 years.

When his he was released, his parents welcomed him with open arms as if he had just been born. Like a newborn baby. No judgement, no anger, no nothing negative. They were over the moon to have their only son back home. It was difficult for me to understand how parents could be so loving despite this monumental mistake. The entire family showered him with love. Until today, I could never understand how that could be. My parent's would've disowned me and left me to my own devices because of the shame (at least, that's what I believe).

 

[EVBM]

Luke 15:11-32 in the Bible . The Prodigal Son. (Look it up).

 

[JDMeister]

If you speak to a screen writer, "There Is Only One Story".
All films have the same contents.
(Ask me how I know)

 

[Crusty]

It's on my list of things to watch.

My tolerance for stupid people is near zero. Tough love is real, everything has a line, depends on what they did.

You never stop loving them, they can always become what you saw in them (full potential) later in life after learning lessons the "Hard" way.

 

[hello_newman]

Watched it over the weekend, one of the heaviest, most heart-wrenching things that I've seen in a while. I have two really great, well adjusted kids now in their mid 20's. When I reflect back on myself as a parent, I believe that my children are doing so well not because of me as a father, but despite me as a father. So, I feel very blessed. Then I think of friends of mine, who I know were much better parents than me (put much more effort into it than I ever did), yet their kids are a mess, just completely fouled up. The way kids are growing up now, with the damn cell phones, social media, etc. etc., there are things influencing them from all around in ways that are damn near impossible for any parent to control. I am so glad my raising kids days are nearly completed, because I'm not sure I could handle the heartbreak that was portrayed in the Adolescence series.

 

[Toy Collector]

As a father, it's the most heart-breaking thing I've ever watched on film.

It broke me by bringing out feelings and emotions I'd never experienced before.

It also helped me to understand how my HS best friend's parent's felt when he was arrested and convicted for a series of armed robberies/heists inspired by watching gangster/mafia movies. The guy was a model-looking kid with the gift of charisma and gaff (he banged the hottest teach on campus the night after graduation). He was a semi-pro flat-land freestyler before HS and talented soccer player. Yet the "romanticism, respect, and superiority" of that Italian gang/life was too attractive to him. The guy never studied or opened a book yet had a 3.9gpa when we graduated. I'll never forget the call I received 18-20 months after we graduated informing me that he had been caught. He served 10 years.

When his he was released, his parents welcomed him with open arms as if he had just been born. Like a newborn baby. No judgement, no anger, no nothing negative. They were over the moon to have their only son back home. It was difficult for me to understand how parents could be so loving despite this monumental mistake. The entire family showered him with love. Until today, I could never understand how that could be. My parent's would've disowned me and left me to my own devices because of the shame (at least, that's what I believe).

One of my buddies from Middle School in Vista did something along the same lines. He was a good looking guy, very smart... but liked the romanticism of being a badass just like your friend. He committed suicide during his Bank robbery and left his wife with two beautiful girls. His wife was (coincidentally) the one that performed our Sonograms for our Daughter in 2022/2023, so we still get to stay in contact with her and the kids.

Robbery suspect who shot self during police confrontation ID’d

IRVINE – Authorities have identified a Fallbrook man who shot and killed himself after being confronted by police during an Irvine bank robbery.Jeffrey Hudson, 29, died Friday afternoon of a …

www.ocregister.com

 

[TheSPAINishLover]

One of my buddies from Middle School in Vista did something along the same lines. He was a good looking guy, very smart... but liked the romanticism of being a badass just like your friend. He committed suicide during his Bank robbery and left his wife with two beautiful girls. His wife was (coincidentally) the one that performed our Sonograms for our Daughter in 2022/2023, so we still get to stay in contact with her and the kids.

Robbery suspect who shot self during police confrontation ID’d

IRVINE – Authorities have identified a Fallbrook man who shot and killed himself after being confronted by police during an Irvine bank robbery.Jeffrey Hudson, 29, died Friday afternoon of a …

www.ocregister.com

Thanks for sharing. I hope his wife and girls are doing great.

 

[TheSPAINishLover]

Watched it over the weekend, one of the heaviest, most heart-wrenching things that I've seen in a while. I have two really great, well adjusted kids now in their mid 20's. When I reflect back on myself as a parent, I believe that my children are doing so well not because of me as a father, but despite me as a father. So, I feel very blessed. Then I think of friends of mine, who I know were much better parents than me (put much more effort into it than I ever did), yet their kids are a mess, just completely fouled up. The way kids are growing up now, with the damn cell phones, social media, etc. etc., there are things influencing them from all around in ways that are damn near impossible for any parent to control. I am so glad my raising kids days are nearly completed, because I'm not sure I could handle the heartbreak that was portrayed in the Adolescence series.

Thanks for sharing.

I get up at 3:30am to go to the gym so I'm usually tired and starting to wind down when I log off from work in the late afternoon.

That said, my broley get him around 3:30 from Kindergarten. He grabs a bite to eat and when there is no BJJ or ball practice, he wants to play ball- baseball, football, or basketball. If I don't play with him, he'll go out on his own for 30-45 mins then he'll come in to use his iPad (I have it set up so he can only do educational things). However, I force my ass to go out and play with him for an hour or two as an alternative to him using the iPad. We'll take breaks and do short bike rides, pull weeds, etc. ANYTHING to minimize screen time.

 

[Toy Collector]

Thanks for sharing. I hope his wife and girls are doing great.

Fortunately, they are. She's still trying to hide the negativity of it all and I can still see the hurt (we've known each other most of our lives, it's pretty clear). However, she has remarried with her third child and she found an amazing guy that takes very good care of his 4 Girls, now. He's at least 10 times the Man my buddy Jeff was.

 

[hello_newman]

Thanks for sharing.

I get up at 3:30am to go to the gym so I'm usually tired and starting to wind down when I log off from work in the late afternoon.

That said, my broley get him around 3:30 from Kindergarten. He grabs a bite to eat and when there is no BJJ or ball practice, he wants to play ball- baseball, football, or basketball. If I don't play with him, he'll go out on his own for 30-45 mins then he'll come in to use his iPad (I have it set up so he can only do educational things). However, I force my ass to go out and play with him for an hour or two as an alternative to him using the iPad. We'll take breaks and do short bike rides, pull weeds, etc. ANYTHING to minimize screen time.

Awesome, it sure seems like you are doing all that you can do to get him started on solid footing. Sounds like you may have a future athlete on your hands. That was what my son was from age 5 through high school. I could literally write a book about what NOT to do when navigating the All Star/Travel/Showcase baseball universe. It was like a second childhood for me, but there are many things that I regret doing and would handle differently if I could do it all over again.

 

[rivermobster]

Sounds like I need to watch this...

 

[Bansh88]

 

[L.R.S.]

My GF told me it was a great mini series so I watched i last weekend. I don't get it. The acting was great, especially the main character kid. But what was the point? Was that him in the video? Were those his shoes? Lots of build up for the knife, then nothing. What was the take away? Cyber bulling is a real problem?

 

[Cookie]

I truly think one of the biggest issues we have with young boys is the screen time, meaning everything you watch on TV has shootings and virtually every video game is a shooting game in some way. It glorifies shooting with zero consequences. Just watch a CSI show, someone gets killed on every episode with almost zero remorse. The next step after you have killed everything on Mortal Combat is to make it reality.

 

[hello_newman]

My GF told me it was a great mini series so I watched i last weekend. I don't get it. The acting was great, especially the main character kid. But what was the point? Was that him in the video? Were those his shoes? Lots of build up for the knife, then nothing. What was the take away? Cyber bulling is a real problem?

Definitely him in the video, definitely him doing the stabbing. The kids was nothing but a lying POS, killed this girl because she wouldn't go to the fair with him, and he was rejected and embarrassed. So, what made him this way, a fragile homicidal maniac? Parents weren't perfect (but who is?), but they did the absolute best they could. The way kids can be cruel to each other and the way they are influenced by complete BS on the internet was the point. And how exceedingly difficult it is becoming for parents who care to do a damn thing about it.

My wife is a middle school teacher, and the way they portray that middle school isn't far from reality these days. There are many teachers (my wife included) who do care and are trying to make a difference for these kids. But so many things are working against a teacher: parents who just don't give a shit, the aforementioned internet and social media, and school policies and administration who refuse to do a damn thing about obviously disturbed kids who poison the classroom for the rest of the kids. COVID has created a generation of kids who are even worse than before, if that's even possible. Any they try to introduce this "technology" into the classroom, got to spend up that "funding" right? Put ANY screen in front of middle school kids and their obsession will be to try and bypass any of the filters/safeguards/firewalls to get onto social media. My wife teaches English, and has gone back to hand writing essays in class to avoid all of that. Yet the administration tries to undermine her..............

 

[zilla68]

Definitely him in the video, definitely him doing the stabbing. The kids was nothing but a lying POS, killed this girl because she wouldn't go to the fair with him, and he was rejected and embarrassed. So, what made him this way, a fragile homicidal maniac? Parents weren't perfect (but who is?), but they did the absolute best they could. The way kids can be cruel to each other and the way they are influenced by complete BS on the internet was the point. And how exceedingly difficult it is becoming for parents who care to do a damn thing about it.

My wife is a middle school teacher, and the way they portray that middle school isn't far from reality these days. There are many teachers (my wife included) who do care and are trying to make a difference for these kids. But so many things are working against a teacher: parents who just don't give a shit, the aforementioned internet and social media, and school policies and administration who refuse to do a damn thing about obviously disturbed kids who poison the classroom for the rest of the kids. COVID has created a generation of kids who are even worse than before, its that's even possible. Any they try to introduce this "technology" into the classroom, got to spend up that "funding" right? Put ANY screen in front of middle school kids and their obsession will be to try and bypass any of the filters/safeguards/firewalls to get onto social media. My wife teaches English, and has gone back to hand writing essays in class to avoid all of that. Yet the administration tries to undermine her..............

mine is exactly the same. she became and esl teacher this year and said she should have done it 10 years ago. The kids want to learn, parents care, its not just a drop off babysitter deal. admin leaves her alone, no principals to report to just district heads, no testing, and the kids really are into it. its fun again!

 

[hello_newman]

mine is exactly the same. she became and esl teacher this year and said she should have done it 10 years ago. The kids want to learn, parents care, its not just a drop off babysitter deal. admin leaves her alone, no principals to report to just district heads, no testing, and the kids really are into it. its fun again!

The District that my wife teaches in is 90%+ Hispanic. My wife is Caucasian, but happens to be bilingual (lived in Uruguay for a couple of years when she was a kid, there existed no bilingual education there, so she had to learn Spanish, imagine that). But being bilingual has always given her a leg up in her teaching career, because she could actually communicate with the Spanish speaking parents. And, if she could actually talk to them, they would then at least make an effort to get their kids in line. But things have changed the last few years, the kids are much worse and, often times, the parents flat DO NOT CARE. I don't know if the parents are younger themselves or are gang bangers themselves, but they aren't able to exert much control over THEIR OWN kids. Then, you have administration that flat doesn't do their job, leaving ZERO CONSEQUENCES for out of control kids, and they flat ruin it for the kids who do want to learn. No detention, no suspension, no expulsion, no Saturday school etc. etc. for problematic kids. I get that teachers are the scapegoats for much of the problems, but there are many really good and caring ones that are in an absolute no-win situation. She doesn't have an actual ESL certificate, but was forced to teach some ESL classes last year, due to a shortage of teachers with the certificate. She loved it, it is a different and more fulfilling experience.

Its all about "where's my phone", "I lost my phone, "he took my phone", "I got a new phone", "can I get on my phone" blah blah blah. Its complete madness. It was my suggestion that they implement a new policy that states whenever a kid has their phone out in class, the teacher immediately is required to smash it with a hammer. Now, THAT might actually make a difference with the phone/screen problem.

My daughter is a Deputy DA, currently doing a rotation in Juvi. That is a whole other set of challenges. Between her stories and my wife's stories, I truly fear for the future of our society. Its all pretty damn depressing.

 

[Kraut_n_Rice]

Bring it back...

 

[Crusty]

Off topic but not really when we are talking about the massive Desensitization from 24/7 smartphone usage/access.

I like the "Wait until 8th" movement that happening.

Kids do not need smart phone until they enter high school, even then it needs to be limited.

 

[zilla68]

The District that my wife teaches in is 90%+ Hispanic. My wife is Caucasian, but happens to be bilingual (lived in Uruguay for a couple of years when she was a kid, there existed no bilingual education there, so she had to learn Spanish, imagine that). But being bilingual has always given her a leg up in her teaching career, because she could actually communicate with the Spanish speaking parents. And, if she could actually talk to them, they would then at least make an effort to get their kids in line. But things have changed the last few years, the kids are much worse and, often times, the parents flat DO NOT CARE. I don't know if the parents are younger themselves or are gang bangers themselves, but they aren't able to exert much control over THEIR OWN kids. Then, you have administration that flat doesn't do their job, leaving ZERO CONSEQUENCES for out of control kids, and they flat ruin it for the kids who do want to learn. No detention, no suspension, no expulsion, no Saturday school etc. etc. for problematic kids. I get that teachers are the scapegoats for much of the problems, but there are many really good and caring ones that are in an absolute no-win situation. She doesn't have an actual ESL certificate, but was forced to teach some ESL classes last year, due to a shortage of teachers with the certificate. She loved it, it is a different and more fulfilling experience.

Its all about "where's my phone", "I lost my phone, "he took my phone", "I got a new phone", "can I get on my phone" blah blah blah. Its complete madness. It was my suggestion that they implement a new policy that states whenever a kid has their phone out in class, the teacher immediately is required to smash it with a hammer. Now, THAT might actually make a difference with the phone/screen problem.

My daughter is a Deputy DA, currently doing a rotation in Juvi. That is a whole other set of challenges. Between her stories and my wife's stories, I truly fear for the future of our society. Its all pretty damn depressing.

mine had no esl credintials, but she got her cert (they give you 6 months I think it is), knows nothing but english, but was an english teacher and has killed it in her new role. phones are the down fall of society, we are trying to pass a no phone in school law now i think here in okla.