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Lets see, With a straight party line Vote the IRS will receive the largest increase in its history. Hunter Biden, Trump raid, looks like The GOP is in for a long 2years

of tax  investigation's  

 
You mean the plan to hire lots of IRS employees over the next 10 years?

 
The IRS needs to be expanded.  IRS Auditors pay for their existence many times over.  The people that they look at aren't like you and me.  People like you and me get a letter that says your tax return has been adjusted by $500 and you pay it...and grumble about it.  You recognize a mistake made by somebody....SOMEBODY ELSE

I used to work in the federal building, as a guard.  A lawyer would come in...dressed like he is ready for court/prom/wedding/black-tie affair.  His client comes in, dressed the same, but not so much.  They meet w/an auditor.  I look out the window and see a Maserati SUV parked at the meter (I later watch and see that the lawyer gets in it).  I also see a Porsche ( I later watch and see that the client gets in it).  They come back another 2 or 3 times.  The lawyer gets paid $5K-$10K (just guessing, but that Maserati got paid for somehow).  This gentleman...was willfully defrauding the gubment.  Then his lawyer gets him a break....after the lawyer gets his $10K, he probably still gets away w/$50K (because the Auditor is over worked and has to clean out his cases to get his boss off his a@@).  BTW...that $125K check (below) is cheap as he has done it for years.

Afterwards....The Auditor says, OK, we can settle this for $125K...the client then writes a check ON THE SPOT. .."Chump-Change."  They work several of these cases a year...the best lawyer that money can buy can't get them off for under $100K.  That is $100K of money that the gubment could pay down the debt with, or blow on Obama Phones or some other BS. 

$150K WORTH OF FRAUD, or twice that.

The IRS has Criminal Investigators that put people in prison for criminal stuff (like Al Capone).  Do you think that they have guns?  They are chasing people with guns...you can't arrest somebody w/a gun and not have a gun.  They need to qualify with their guns 4x a year (Thank a lawyer).  That amount of ammo comes out to about 500 rds per year for the average guy/gal (100 rds per training session) and it does not take in to the count of training a newbie how to shoot...several thousand rounds each. 

BTW, Barney Fife only qualified once a year.

BTW, Auditors and "normal" IRS people do not have guns.

All of that is reasonable.  They need more Auditors and they need ammo. 

We also need more CBP/ICE guys....the number of containers/shipments that could be seized because of fraud, because there is nobody to inspect them is staggering.  1,000 containers on a ship....a percentage of them are high-tech gadgets.  But, they are labeled as nails, or some other low-tech gadget.  You have a pretty significant difference in tariff there...like maybe $10K, in one container.  The ship probably/possibly has several more of the same type of fraud.  BTW, our country is supposed to run on tariffs, not on income tax.

I pay my taxes...shouldn't everybody pay their FAIR amount of taxes and not screw the gubment.

 
Stinky said:
The IRS needs to be expanded.  IRS Auditors pay for their existence many times over.  The people that they look at aren't like you and me.  People like you and me get a letter that says your tax return has been adjusted by $500 and you pay it...and grumble about it.  You recognize a mistake made by somebody....SOMEBODY ELSE

I used to work in the federal building, as a guard.  A lawyer would come in...dressed like he is ready for court/prom/wedding/black-tie affair.  His client comes in, dressed the same, but not so much.  They meet w/an auditor.  I look out the window and see a Maserati SUV parked at the meter (I later watch and see that the lawyer gets in it).  I also see a Porsche ( I later watch and see that the client gets in it).  They come back another 2 or 3 times.  The lawyer gets paid $5K-$10K (just guessing, but that Maserati got paid for somehow).  This gentleman...was willfully defrauding the gubment.  Then his lawyer gets him a break....after the lawyer gets his $10K, he probably still gets away w/$50K (because the Auditor is over worked and has to clean out his cases to get his boss off his a@@).  BTW...that $125K check (below) is cheap as he has done it for years.

Afterwards....The Auditor says, OK, we can settle this for $125K...the client then writes a check ON THE SPOT. .."Chump-Change."  They work several of these cases a year...the best lawyer that money can buy can't get them off for under $100K.  That is $100K of money that the gubment could pay down the debt with, or blow on Obama Phones or some other BS. 

$150K WORTH OF FRAUD, or twice that.

The IRS has Criminal Investigators that put people in prison for criminal stuff (like Al Capone).  Do you think that they have guns?  They are chasing people with guns...you can't arrest somebody w/a gun and not have a gun.  They need to qualify with their guns 4x a year (Thank a lawyer).  That amount of ammo comes out to about 500 rds per year for the average guy/gal (100 rds per training session) and it does not take in to the count of training a newbie how to shoot...several thousand rounds each. 

BTW, Barney Fife only qualified once a year.

BTW, Auditors and "normal" IRS people do not have guns.

All of that is reasonable.  They need more Auditors and they need ammo. 

We also need more CBP/ICE guys....the number of containers/shipments that could be seized because of fraud, because there is nobody to inspect them is staggering.  1,000 containers on a ship....a percentage of them are high-tech gadgets.  But, they are labeled as nails, or some other low-tech gadget.  You have a pretty significant difference in tariff there...like maybe $10K, in one container.  The ship probably/possibly has several more of the same type of fraud.  BTW, our country is supposed to run on tariffs, not on income tax.

I pay my taxes...shouldn't everybody pay their FAIR amount of taxes and not screw the gubment.
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Are you serious with this post?

Do you seriously think the best way to collect tax money is to spend a large fortune for more auditors??

Here's a novel idea. Simplify the tax code. Remove all of the deductions, credits, deferrals and loopholes. Just make the tax a percentage of a person's income with a linear increase in tax rate as the income increases. That's it. They currently collect all of the income/interest data directly from the source via computers. All they need to do is track down unreported sources of income, which is far easier to do than verifying all of the current loopholes aren't being abused.

Simplify the tax code, don't build an army of tax collectors.

When the IRS is larger than the military, will the public finally wake up and realize that the gov't considers us the real enemy?

 
Stinky said:
The IRS needs to be expanded.  IRS Auditors pay for their existence many times over.  The people that they look at aren't like you and me.  People like you and me get a letter that says your tax return has been adjusted by $500 and you pay it...and grumble about it.  You recognize a mistake made by somebody....SOMEBODY ELSE

I used to work in the federal building, as a guard.  A lawyer would come in...dressed like he is ready for court/prom/wedding/black-tie affair.  His client comes in, dressed the same, but not so much.  They meet w/an auditor.  I look out the window and see a Maserati SUV parked at the meter (I later watch and see that the lawyer gets in it).  I also see a Porsche ( I later watch and see that the client gets in it).  They come back another 2 or 3 times.  The lawyer gets paid $5K-$10K (just guessing, but that Maserati got paid for somehow).  This gentleman...was willfully defrauding the gubment.  Then his lawyer gets him a break....after the lawyer gets his $10K, he probably still gets away w/$50K (because the Auditor is over worked and has to clean out his cases to get his boss off his a@@).  BTW...that $125K check (below) is cheap as he has done it for years.

Afterwards....The Auditor says, OK, we can settle this for $125K...the client then writes a check ON THE SPOT. .."Chump-Change."  They work several of these cases a year...the best lawyer that money can buy can't get them off for under $100K.  That is $100K of money that the gubment could pay down the debt with, or blow on Obama Phones or some other BS. 

$150K WORTH OF FRAUD, or twice that.

The IRS has Criminal Investigators that put people in prison for criminal stuff (like Al Capone).  Do you think that they have guns?  They are chasing people with guns...you can't arrest somebody w/a gun and not have a gun.  They need to qualify with their guns 4x a year (Thank a lawyer).  That amount of ammo comes out to about 500 rds per year for the average guy/gal (100 rds per training session) and it does not take in to the count of training a newbie how to shoot...several thousand rounds each. 

BTW, Barney Fife only qualified once a year.

BTW, Auditors and "normal" IRS people do not have guns.

All of that is reasonable.  They need more Auditors and they need ammo. 

We also need more CBP/ICE guys....the number of containers/shipments that could be seized because of fraud, because there is nobody to inspect them is staggering.  1,000 containers on a ship....a percentage of them are high-tech gadgets.  But, they are labeled as nails, or some other low-tech gadget.  You have a pretty significant difference in tariff there...like maybe $10K, in one container.  The ship probably/possibly has several more of the same type of fraud.  BTW, our country is supposed to run on tariffs, not on income tax.

I pay my taxes...shouldn't everybody pay their FAIR amount of taxes and not screw the gubment.
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There are many rebbutles that can be made throughout this just for sake of good conversation, but I will only focus on your last line. The Gov ain't getting screwed by anyone, but we sure the eff are. Piss on Ukraine and the "war" they're using to launder the $440B back to DC and crooked politicians all the while passing a bill through the house to raise our income taxes yet again. F the IRS and F paying more in tax. We are taxed to death and it needs to STOP. 

Almost forgot, no, the IRS doesn't need guns or ammunition. If they can prove their case, they can get a warrant and follow the law like everyone else. Prove case, judge issues warrant, cops make an arrest... I can't think of a single BS federal agency that's not LEO that requires guns or ammo. They are weaponizing the Fed, plain and simple. They're just like "privateers" from the 1600-1700's, pirates under the guise of being government officials with no checks and balances. The East India Trading Co comes to mind... 

 
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Orange_R said:
Can you fill me in on why the IRS needs $750K in small arms ammo? I mean, do they really ne 87k new auditors? 
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 IRS agents that do criminal work get to carry guns and they need overpriced ammo would be my guess.

The IRS currently employs more than 78,000 people,which is less employees than they had through the 1990s, which averaged over 100,000 employees.   The plan I read says over 10 years they will hire 87,000 employees, they will not all be auditors. The hiring will include support staff, IT people, and all other non-auditor positions.  I think the IRS currently has under 10,000 auditors.    

The goal is 87,000 new employees over 10 years.  I bet they will be lucky to find 5,000 people a year.   Now consider how many people quit, get fired, or retire from the IRS each year and the amount of actual new employees is smaller.   

 
Sand Shark said:
 IRS agents that do criminal work get to carry guns and they need overpriced ammo would be my guess.

The IRS currently employs more than 78,000 people,which is less employees than they had through the 1990s, which averaged over 100,000 employees.   The plan I read says over 10 years they will hire 87,000 employees, they will not all be auditors. The hiring will include support staff, IT people, and all other non-auditor positions.  I think the IRS currently has under 10,000 auditors.    

The goal is 87,000 new employees over 10 years.  I bet they will be lucky to find 5,000 people a year.   Now consider how many people quit, get fired, or retire from the IRS each year and the amount of actual new employees is smaller.   
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Here's an article that lays ^ ^ ^^ out.

https://time.com/6204928/irs-87000-agents-factcheck-biden/

 
Lord of the Dunes said:
Are you serious with this post?

Do you seriously think the best way to collect tax money is to spend a large fortune for more auditors??

Here's a novel idea. Simplify the tax code. Remove all of the deductions, credits, deferrals and loopholes. Just make the tax a percentage of a person's income with a linear increase in tax rate as the income increases. That's it. They currently collect all of the income/interest data directly from the source via computers. All they need to do is track down unreported sources of income, which is far easier to do than verifying all of the current loopholes aren't being abused.

Simplify the tax code, don't build an army of tax collectors.

When the IRS is larger than the military, will the public finally wake up and realize that the gov't considers us the real enemy?
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They will never simplify the tax code.  If they did that then even the people in charge would actually have to pay the full amount of taxes.  

 
I agree that simplifying the tax code will never happen. You cannot put a full stop on that amount of corruption and expect it to succeed.

Instead of focusing on going after more revenue, and spending billions to find it, just manage the revenue that is coming in a responsible way? (I know, I already answered this in the first part of this post)

One of the first ways to address mismanagement of tax payer funds is to go after the massive corruption of NGO,s that are raping the taxpayers and with a doubt, some of those funds are finding their way back to the politicians that fund these corrupt entities. And yes, these NGO's exist across the political spectrum. But I believe the left has taken it to a whole new level.

 
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Sand Shark said:
 IRS agents that do criminal work get to carry guns and they need overpriced ammo would be my guess.

The IRS currently employs more than 78,000 people,which is less employees than they had through the 1990s, which averaged over 100,000 employees.   The plan I read says over 10 years they will hire 87,000 employees, they will not all be auditors. The hiring will include support staff, IT people, and all other non-auditor positions.  I think the IRS currently has under 10,000 auditors.    

The goal is 87,000 new employees over 10 years.  I bet they will be lucky to find 5,000 people a year.   Now consider how many people quit, get fired, or retire from the IRS each year and the amount of actual new employees is smaller.   
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I'm wondering when tax evasion became such a violent act that they decided they needed to be armed. Like I said they should be utilizing actual LEO's, not taking it upon themselves to serve the warrant. BTW, anyone that argues we should be paying or could pay more to "help" others, please feel free to cover my $50K a year, Thanks :cheers:  

 
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