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Hi GD , I have a couple questions.

1-Are the AG Next Generation , Sand Rails good cars?

2-What to look out for in a Subaru motor before buying?

3-There are different types of blocks for the 2.5. Are the STI good?
 
AG had and still builds quality cars. The J-arm is fairly unique to his design from the traditional a-arm. They did/do have some weak points overtime/abuse but similar to all the other builders out there.

@John@Outfront for Subi info. In general the differences are based on HP, fueling, cooling options.
 
I.d rather run a:
GM Ecotec or 4.3
Honda 3.5 V6
Honda 4 cyl
Nissan
Not in that order
 
The Subaru power plant is a proven platform in the dunes. As a generalization Subi motors are happiest when paired with an experienced driver and lighter car / passenger weight.
Some of the fastest / “quickest” cars in the dunes are powered by Subarus.
A novice or non-aggressive driver that is hesitant to keep a motor up in the sweet spot in the RPMs is going to have a problem with the lack of torque at low speeds especially when driving a 4 seat car filled with people.
I’ve had multiple cars with multiple power plants, my two seat HRT with the big (6 cylinder) Subi from John @ Outfront was the only cat that could scare the sh*t out of me.
The answer to your question lies more with your driving ability and the size and weight (including passengers) of your car, you don’t see to many Porsches with a trailer hitch on the back.
 
BaBaBouy said:
The Subaru power plant is a proven platform in the dunes. As a generalization Subi motors are happiest when paired with an experienced driver and lighter car / passenger weight.
Some of the fastest / “quickest” cars in the dunes are powered by Subarus.
A novice or non-aggressive driver that is hesitant to keep a motor up in the sweet spot in the RPMs is going to have a problem with the lack of torque at low speeds especially when driving a 4 seat car filled with people.
I’ve had multiple cars with multiple power plants, my two seat HRT with the big (6 cylinder) Subi from John @ Outfront was the only cat that could scare the sh*t out of me.
The answer to your question lies more with your driving ability and the size and weight (including passengers) of your car, you don’t see to many Porsches with a trailer hitch on the back.
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Facts. 👍🏼
 
BaBaBouy said:
The Subaru power plant is a proven platform in the dunes. As a generalization Subi motors are happiest when paired with an experienced driver and lighter car / passenger weight.
Some of the fastest / “quickest” cars in the dunes are powered by Subarus.
A novice or non-aggressive driver that is hesitant to keep a motor up in the sweet spot in the RPMs is going to have a problem with the lack of torque at low speeds especially when driving a 4 seat car filled with people.
I’ve had multiple cars with multiple power plants, my two seat HRT with the big (6 cylinder) Subi from John @ Outfront was the only cat that could scare the sh*t out of me.
The answer to your question lies more with your driving ability and the size and weight (including passengers) of your car, you don’t see to many Porsches with a trailer hitch on the back.
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I don't mean to derail the thread, but do you have a picture of this two seat HRT? Was it yellow?


Also, I would like to add that I am on my second subi powered sand car and I do like the powerplant. I had a 2 seat Sandlimo and now a 4 seat SU Ultralite. I have not had any issues with the engines on both cars. I do over maintenance my sand cars but i would rather pay for oil and filters than have to rebuild a subi engine that's for sure. Stay up in the RPMs and let that turbo sing. Reach out to John at Outfront motorsports like others on here have said. He'll get the info you're looking for. He's been very helpful from my experience
 
SLAYERMARQUEZ said:
I don't mean to derail the thread, but do you have a picture of this two seat HRT? Was it yellow?


Also, I would like to add that I am on my second subi powered sand car and I do like the powerplant. I had a 2 seat Sandlimo and now a 4 seat SU Ultralite. I have not had any issues with the engines on both cars. I do over maintenance my sand cars but i would rather pay for oil and filters than have to rebuild a subi engine that's for sure. Stay up in the RPMs and let that turbo sing. Reach out to John at Outfront motorsports like others on here have said. He'll get the info you're looking for. He's been very helpful from my experience
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Yep, yellow.
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2012 HRT Motorsports Sandcar

2012 HRT Motorsports Sandrail Engine: Subaru 3.0 turbocharged 6 cyl Z30 engine running on E85 504 RWHP/428 ftlb torque running 12lb intercooled boost (Dyno sheet attached) Transaxle: PBS Engineering Transaxle (PS-4) Sequential shift R&P 5.43/1, 1st: 2.91, 2nd: 2.21, 3rd: 1.75, 4th: 1.37 PBS...
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BaBaBouy said:
Yep, yellow.
str8uptoytrader.com

2012 HRT Motorsports Sandcar

2012 HRT Motorsports Sandrail Engine: Subaru 3.0 turbocharged 6 cyl Z30 engine running on E85 504 RWHP/428 ftlb torque running 12lb intercooled boost (Dyno sheet attached) Transaxle: PBS Engineering Transaxle (PS-4) Sequential shift R&P 5.43/1, 1st: 2.91, 2nd: 2.21, 3rd: 1.75, 4th: 1.37 PBS...
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Yup. That’s the one I want next. If I sell my current car soon I’ll be giving Lance a call
 
SLAYERMARQUEZ said:
Yup. That’s the one I want next. If I sell my current car soon I’ll be giving Lance a call
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I sold that to Glenn (RIP) a few years ago, he did a ton of work on it. I’m not familiar with Lance.
I get over to Boise every now and then, if you get serious about buying it and it’s still available I may be able to get over there and put some eyeballs on it before you make a trip up.
 
BaBaBouy said:
The Subaru power plant is a proven platform in the dunes. As a generalization Subi motors are happiest when paired with an experienced driver and lighter car / passenger weight.
Some of the fastest / “quickest” cars in the dunes are powered by Subarus.
A novice or non-aggressive driver that is hesitant to keep a motor up in the sweet spot in the RPMs is going to have a problem with the lack of torque at low speeds especially when driving a 4 seat car filled with people.
I’ve had multiple cars with multiple power plants, my two seat HRT with the big (6 cylinder) Subi from John @ Outfront was the only cat that could scare the sh*t out of me.
The answer to your question lies more with your driving ability and the size and weight (including passengers) of your car, you don’t see to many Porsches with a trailer hitch on the back.
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You forgot to mention that you were an Early Adopter of the Gadgetman Groove and that performance was likely the cause of your fear.

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