The Green New Deal Scam

I've been preaching that same thing to anyone who will listen to me yap. No one believes it though. All of the tree hugging Tesla geeks have no clue what the plastic, paint and rubber in their electric car is made out of, or what powered the factory that made it, or what powered the truck that brought it to the dealer, or what delivered the products to the grocery store, or even what their cell phone was made with. People have such a tendency to deny what the truth really is. Here in Arizona, electric cars get a license plate with stupid fucking clouds on it, it says hey I'm better than all of you people that drive cars that run on gas, and it gives them a false sense of entitlement that their doing something good. People need to wake up and open their narrow minds about how things really are.
 
Greenwashing: The term "greenwashing" describes misleading environmental claims made by companies to appear more eco-friendly than they are. This can be seen as a deceptive tactic used to profit from growing environmental consciousness without making genuine commitments to sustainability.

Milk was good, then it was bad so people bought into Soy, Oat milk crap.... now Milk is good again.

Just like Butter to margarine/vegetable spread, back to butter.

Marketing to sell whatever crap is the hype at the moment. Add to the fact people want to "Save" something, the planet is so long game it becomes generational.
 
Let me grab my soapbox.. I've been trying to explain the idiotic CARB policies for a decade... I started a crane company 25 years ago, purchased 5 cranes over time and then carb comes along and requires replacement of trucks (re-powering was not a viable option), so producing a 70,000 pound piece of equipment has a huge impact on the environment, (the cranes were only averaging about 10k mi per year). IMO it would take centuries to offset the impact of the production using the reduction of emissions produced by the tier 4 engine, not to mention the old equipment simply went to any other state and is still running daily. Its simply a money grab, each replacement generated a minimum of 50k in sales tax plus about an equal amount in FET not to mention an annual registration increase of thousands of dollars... Follow the money...
 
KLC said:
I've been preaching that same thing to anyone who will listen to me yap. No one believes it though. All of the tree hugging Tesla geeks have no clue what the plastic, paint and rubber in their electric car is made out of, or what powered the factory that made it, or what powered the truck that brought it to the dealer, or what delivered the products to the grocery store, or even what their cell phone was made with. People have such a tendency to deny what the truth really is. Here in Arizona, electric cars get a license plate with stupid fucking clouds on it, it says hey I'm better than all of you people that drive cars that run on gas, and it gives them a false sense of entitlement that their doing something good. People need to wake up and open their narrow minds about how things really are.
Click to expand...
I don't drive a Tesla, but instead a Chevy Bolt EV as my everyday commuter car (40 miles round trip daily). Had three different EV's before the Bolt. I agree with what you are saying, and don't have any illusions that this makes a hill of beans difference, environmentally or otherwise. That being said, an electric car is the best driving experience I've ever had. Smooth, quiet and no rattles or vibrations. "One pedal" driving is quite relaxing, and the torque/acceleration is fun! Charge it up in my garage, and have other vehicles for out of town trips. Never having to mess around with going to the gas station, or with oil changes, or with worn out brakes is the stuff. Drove from the Central Valley into LA last weekend, must have seen hundreds of EV's along the way. Kind of doubt that all of the people driving them are "tree hugging Tesla geeks", but instead they just enjoy them for the experience. You almost have to drive one to understand.
 
hello_newman said:
I don't drive a Tesla, but instead a Chevy Bolt EV as my everyday commuter car (40 miles round trip daily). Had three different EV's before the Bolt. I agree with what you are saying, and don't have any illusions that this makes a hill of beans difference, environmentally or otherwise. That being said, an electric car is the best driving experience I've ever had. Smooth, quiet and no rattles or vibrations. "One pedal" driving is quite relaxing, and the torque/acceleration is fun! Charge it up in my garage, and have other vehicles for out of town trips. Never having to mess around with going to the gas station, or with oil changes, or with worn out brakes is the stuff. Drove from the Central Valley into LA last weekend, must have seen hundreds of EV's along the way. Kind of doubt that all of the people driving them are "tree hugging Tesla geeks", but instead they just enjoy them for the experience. You almost have to drive one to understand.
Click to expand...
Drive one? I have to work on them. The reasons you drive one are great, and that’s legit reason, but unfortunately the majority of electric car owners truly think theyre doing something wonderful for the earth and that’s totally not the case. And Tesla owners drive 63mph in the fast lane and hold up traffic on a highway that is going 80. That is possibly my biggest gripe.

And fwiw, a Bolt may not be a tire burner, but Tesla’s go through a set of tires in about 10k miles Sometimes less, so there’s that. 😊
 
Last edited:
raspadoo said:
Let me grab my soapbox.. I've been trying to explain the idiotic CARB policies for a decade... I started a crane company 25 years ago, purchased 5 cranes over time and then carb comes along and requires replacement of trucks (re-powering was not a viable option), so producing a 70,000 pound piece of equipment has a huge impact on the environment, (the cranes were only averaging about 10k mi per year). IMO it would take centuries to offset the impact of the production using the reduction of emissions produced by the tier 4 engine, not to mention the old equipment simply went to any other state and is still running daily. Its simply a money grab, each replacement generated a minimum of 50k in sales tax plus about an equal amount in FET not to mention an annual registration increase of thousands of dollars... Follow the money...
Click to expand...
Which also happened to be the year we had a huge budget surplus and Gavvy looked like an amazing financier.


hello_newman said:
I don't drive a Tesla, but instead a Chevy Bolt EV as my everyday commuter car (40 miles round trip daily). Had three different EV's before the Bolt. I agree with what you are saying, and don't have any illusions that this makes a hill of beans difference, environmentally or otherwise. That being said, an electric car is the best driving experience I've ever had. Smooth, quiet and no rattles or vibrations. "One pedal" driving is quite relaxing, and the torque/acceleration is fun! Charge it up in my garage, and have other vehicles for out of town trips. Never having to mess around with going to the gas station, or with oil changes, or with worn out brakes is the stuff. Drove from the Central Valley into LA last weekend, must have seen hundreds of EV's along the way. Kind of doubt that all of the people driving them are "tree hugging Tesla geeks", but instead they just enjoy them for the experience. You almost have to drive one to understand.
Click to expand...
Bolt is a solid commuter. If San Diego electric rates weren’t astronomical, it would make sense for me.

Going with some sort of mildly used regular hybrid in the next year or so.
 
Rockwood said:
Which also happened to be the year we had a huge budget surplus and Gavvy looked like an amazing financier.



Bolt is a solid commuter. If San Diego electric rates weren’t astronomical, it would make sense for me.

Going with some sort of mildly used regular hybrid in the next year or so.
Click to expand...
There is only one hybrid I would drive...just add the Zephyr kit.

5e055a5c-3931-426b-89fb-458516bb11ad.png
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top