Front Tire toe in?

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I had a power steering pump in my gen 3 funco spring a leak over the weekend. I have it out and a newish one installed but for what ever reasons when putting it all back together the toe in ended up being very extreme. how much is any toe in if any should i be aiming for?
currently i have it down to approx 3/8in per tire when measured front of tire to the back of the tire.
 
I had a power steering pump in my gen 3 funco spring a leak over the weekend. I have it out and a newish one installed but for what ever reasons when putting it all back together the toe in ended up being very extreme. how much is any toe in if any should i be aiming for?
currently i have it down to approx 3/8in per tire when measured front of tire to the back of the tire.
The longer rack is going to mess with Ackerman as well. May or may not make a noticeable difference in cornering.
 
The key is making tie rods equal to control arm length. (so get a rack that can accommodate this) Or as close as you can to reduce change as suspension cycles. I also ran between a 1/4 and 5/16 toe in on mine.
 
ok thanks guys i think i have an idea where to go from here.
 
The key is making tie rods equal to control arm length. (so get a rack that can accommodate this) Or as close as you can to reduce change as suspension cycles. I also ran between a 1/4 and 5/16 toe in on mine.
rack & pinion is like for like ( same part number for the 93 Mustang it came out of ) . i forgot to take the toe measurement when i took the old one out but i feel that the rod ends on the replacement are slightly shorter than the one im replacing.
 
I have always run 1/8 to 1/4 toe in. At ride height. As others have said, check it a full droop and full bump too. It sucks if it goes toe out as it gets closer to bump. This means if you hit a bump on one side, the car will steer into it. I had this issue at one time, car sucked to drive......
 
rack & pinion is like for like ( same part number for the 93 Mustang it came out of ) . i forgot to take the toe measurement when i took the old one out but i feel that the rod ends on the replacement are slightly shorter than the one im replacing.
Did you take rod ends apart when you removed the rack?
 
Toe in will make for less tramlining on ruts.

Toe out makes for quicker turn in.

There’s also bumpsteer to consider, as noted above.
 
I may be using the incorrect terminology. the length of the rod sticking out of the R&P i think is slightly shorter.
If you didn't do anything to the length of the tie-rods and you now have considerably more toe in than before, end to end the rack has to be longer (I'm assuming the Funco is rear steer). Just something to check.
 
I may be using the incorrect terminology. the length of the rod sticking out of the R&P i think is slightly shorter.
As long as you can make the toe you want it will be fine. If you end up too short you can get joints with longer threaded area on them to correct the short stub out the rack.
 
I do a 1/4 towed in...

What do you like about the toed out?
Toe out will make the car seek ruts and be a handful at speed. A small amount of toe out can help with turning, but not enough to outweigh the instability it creates. It's a Funco and the thing is changing toe on you through the travel. Set it so it never goes toe'd out through the travel and live with it... or buy a car with proper geometry. :ROFLMAO:
 
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If you didn't do anything to the length of the tie-rods and you now have considerably more toe in than before, end to end the rack has to be longer (I'm assuming the Funco is rear steer). Just something to check.
It is front steer and i had considerable amount of toe in after changing the R&P, at least and inch and a half
 
It is front steer and i had considerable amount of toe in after changing the R&P, at least and inch and a half
You sure? I looked up some pics and it sure looked like a rear steer setup. Regardless, if you didn't change rod end length and your toe changed, the rack is different.
 
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You sure? I looked up some pics and it sure looked like a rear steer setup. Regardless, if you didn't change rod end length and your toe change, the rack is different.
funcos have never been rear steer.
 
funcos have never been rear steer.
Yea, easy to see in this pic. So the rack would have to be shorter to create the toe in condition if nothing else changed.
 

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