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Years ago, I noticed that when you look at a new truck, or car, the pamphlets don't say nut'N about several things that I am interested in....like the gear rations in the trans, and the axles.  I guess that it is not important to most people.

I was just looking at the Honda website.  I am looking at Honda Pioneers and they didn't have any of that information, or cut-away diagrams showing how the valve set-up and engine internals look.  They also didn't have any specs on HP & Torque.  Back in the olden days, they'd be showing off their hemi-engines and OHC set-up.

Soooo, why is it that what used to be sought after information, when buying a car/vehicle/motorcycle/atv, is not easily available now?

As a side point....2 weeks ago I was at Bass-Pro, and the salesman didn't even know how many cylinders, and if it was water-cooled, about the SXS sitting on the floor (When he popped the hood, it clearly had a radiator).

Am I odd-ball?

 
I've talked to several salesman in different situations/products who didn't know any details about the product.  It isn't like it used to be.  You have to do your own research from multiple sources.

 
I share your frustration being old school and a gear head. I care more about the nuts and bolts than I do about the trim, graphics, and how many speakers. 
Sometimes you just have to dig deeper into your research to get your questions answered. Make a phone call and see if you can get a real person to talk to that has the answers to your questions. 

 
Working in the automotive field, I can tell you that manufacturers are moving away from owner serviceable components. The idea is that the engine never has to be opened up for its life aside from oil changes. We were told that a good 10 years ago. And it was a boast at the time. 

 
Blueteeth and other fancy electronics gizmos are of more concern to the average consumer.

 
Just look around.   Men aren't men anymore and women never cared anyway.  Boomers were the last generation to really understand this.  Gen X...50/50.  Millennials and Zoomers?   Good luck.  

Now go look at the specs on a game box, phone or face cream... consumers know everything about those products.

 
Sadly, nowadays, most people that are purchasing a SXS or car would have no idea what any of that information meant. Manufacturers are marketing to a whole different kind of person than you or me. That's why they just fill brochures with fancy pictures and less words.

 
You guys are confirming what I already thought.

Thank You....I thought that I was a weirdo.   A dinosaur yes, but maybe not a weirdo.

 
In the 90's when I worked in the Power Sports Industry, the guys that knew all the great technical information about the motors, etc of each machine were the MFG Sales Reps that kept the dealerships floors stocked.

The great salesman that moved all the units could sell ice to an Eskimo and knew nothing about the actual machines - LOL "Sell the Sizzle"

You had to go out back and talk to the mechanics and parts guys, they knew all the technical stuff for almost any machine.

Today you walk into a dealership or parts shop and they sell you wants on the showroom floor. The parts guys don't even know how to look up anything on a microfiche based on any knowledge, all parts are found via software "Google" searches and its a guess if its the right part. The mechanics today, they replace parts as told by their cookbook of service vs any type of diagnostic work to find the problem.

Is it Men are less masculine or new technology makes us lazy? I'd say BOTH.

 
A quick Google search found this.....there are a TON of threads.

Forums are still the BEST Source of information from folks looking for the same as you...

https://hondasxs.com/

We (Forums and their members) may not be the most popular form of Social Media these days, but their a valued resource and community to share relevant information.

 
Crusty said:
In the 90's when I worked in the Power Sports Industry, the guys that knew all the great technical information about the motors, etc of each machine were the MFG Sales Reps that kept the dealerships floors stocked.

The great salesman that moved all the units could sell ice to an Eskimo and knew nothing about the actual machines - LOL "Sell the Sizzle"

You had to go out back and talk to the mechanics and parts guys, they knew all the technical stuff for almost any machine.

Today you walk into a dealership or parts shop and they sell you wants on the showroom floor. The parts guys don't even know how to look up anything on a microfiche based on any knowledge, all parts are found via software "Google" searches and its a guess if its the right part. The mechanics today, they replace parts as told by their cookbook of service vs any type of diagnostic work to find the problem.

Is it Men are less masculine or new technology makes us lazy? I'd say BOTH.
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We no longer educate people to solve problems, we educate them to memorize answers.  Plebs are easier to control this way.

 
Salesmen for this stuff are like the same ones selling the Ford Raptor!

"It's like a Trophy truck...just sign here!"

So, what's a trophy truck?

:kenk:  Uh....well, you know those trucks that run in baja...like really fast and stuff! You can do that in this!

How much suspension travel does this have?

  :kenk:  Uh...like a lot, so much you can run 100 MPH through those whoopee de doo's with a cup of coffee and not spill a drop!

:simrak:  

 
dbart said:
Salesmen for this stuff are like the same ones selling the Ford Raptor!

"It's like a Trophy truck...just sign here!"

So, what's a trophy truck?

:kenk:  Uh....well, you know those trucks that run in baja...like really fast and stuff! You can do that in this!

How much suspension travel does this have?

  :kenk:  Uh...like a lot, so much you can run 100 MPH through those whoopee de doo's with a cup of coffee and not spill a drop!

:simrak:  
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Sad but true!

 
dbart said:
Salesmen for this stuff are like the same ones selling the Ford Raptor!

"It's like a Trophy truck...just sign here!"

So, what's a trophy truck?

:kenk:  Uh....well, you know those trucks that run in baja...like really fast and stuff! You can do that in this!

How much suspension travel does this have?

  :kenk:  Uh...like a lot, so much you can run 100 MPH through those whoopee de doo's with a cup of coffee and not spill a drop!

:simrak:  
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So...kind of like...

Robbie Gordon designed and built it....TRUST ME!

:lol:

 
but when you buy a computer they tell you all the specs how many giggabites and megea hurts and all i care are the words on the screen big enough to read

 
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Stinky said:
A dinosaur yes, but maybe not a weirdo.
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You are not a weirdo nor alone there is a bunch of us old dinosaurs who just do not fit the mold of today. We are living in a world catering to people looking for how many speakers does this have or how many can I add, or how good am I going to look in this, rather than the actual nuts and bolts.

 
Its a throw away society  and not a DIY society, look at people leaving Home Depot  - 99% buy "furnishing items" 

Realtors are telling me in CA today no one wants to see a "fixer upper" they are willing pay  3-4x the cost it would take to manage a project and do a bit of the basic work just to have a it done when they walk in

The "informed consumer" is a thing of the past   Zoomers especially hate when you try to explain "how something works"  they don't have time for that stuff between coffee breaks, mani-pedi's, and Me-time 

A winner for scammers - read how many used car adds on restoration where the person paid 10x for shoddy work but brags about it because they have no idea what they just paid for 

Or sadly 40K for a SxS and 30K in bling I have plenty of those in my crew , then again maybe the 12K sound system is worth it wearing a helmet

 
Fullthrottle....Tis funny, I'll talk to be people and they'll see we are building a house, or I built a house.  Then, you quiz them on it...they mean to say that they are paying a guy to build it for them.  In fact, that guy in a contractor, GF, and not a carpenter/plumber.

I was at the Supermarket tonight...There was a UTV shopping guide on the magazine stand.  I learned that the Honda Pioneers in 500 and 520 are both push-rod motors.  I thought Honda stopped doing that in about 1970.

 
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