12 volt power needed needed..can I do this?

Brian Machnach

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looking at buying the new winged air 360+ with the gateway 4G router any body have have this set up and how well you think it will work in the dunes or for boondocks camping in the desert? my TH is a 2013 keystone fusion and has the old crank up antenna.was looking at the satellite setups but the dude at camping world said don't bother as the satellite is going out and a lot of rv companys  are turning to this set up but I see it needs 12 v power.im all set up for satellite prep and i can reuse my coax on roof but for me to get 12 volts up to the roof looks like a pain in the azz.but rite on the wall is a carbon monoxide detector with 12 volts and battery backup.then about 10'' away on my ceiling is my crank for the old antenna. was thinking I can take the 12 volt in wall run it a little higher then out of top wall across ceiling in a channel then up into the crank hole and to the air 360.then just run the detector on the 9 volt battery it takes.dont really watch a lot of tv more for the kids.what do you guys recommend for getting service and about using the 12 volts rite there?he then said to get a fire stick with this and it will be a sick set up.

 
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I think the biggest issue would getting a strong enough internet signal to stream a movie. Its hard enough on busy weeks to get my email to load.

 
It's going to be a timing issue. Meaning it depends on what time you're in Glamis. It will work fine Mon. thru Fri. On slow weekends, it might work marginally.

On big weekends, it's not going to work at all. Bring DVDs or movies on a thumb drive or portable HDD.

 
true but what about on off weekends?wash one  is not bad and get cel service almost every time im out there even on big weekends

 
Look at the fridge setup - it's usually pretty easy to get wires down the "vent" from the roof...and somewhat "easy" to go from the location below to the inside of the trailer.

Just find a 12v source in the outside box to tap into? 

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Brian Machnach said:
true but what about on off weekends?wash one  is not bad and get cel service almost every time im out there even on big weekends
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Cell service and data service are on separate bands. Are you willing to schedule your trips to only off weekends just to get internet service? Are you willing to get super slow or no connectivity on big weekends? There are simply too many people trying to connect off of the limited bandwidth of a couple of cell towers in the middle of the desert.

Those cell booster devices work as designed, the problem is the cell tower is similar to a water spigot with one hose attached. Works great. Then 100,000 other people connect their hoses on a big weekend and some people get a small trickle and the rest get a couple of drops.

 
just get the dish networks besides you need to watch nj local weather so you can cut you trip short to snow plow

 
Lord of the Dunes said:
Cell service and data service are on separate bands. Are you willing to schedule your trips to only off weekends just to get internet service? Are you willing to get super slow or no connectivity on big weekends? There are simply too many people trying to connect off of the limited bandwidth of a couple of cell towers in the middle of the desert.

Those cell booster devices work as designed, the problem is the cell tower is similar to a water spigot with one hose attached. Works great. Then 100,000 other people connect their hoses on a big weekend and some people get a small trickle and the rest get a couple of drops.
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love how you describer that...lol.i own a plumbing company and I really cracked up.

Jersey_Jeff73 said:
just get the dish networks besides you need to watch nj local weather so you can cut you trip short to snow plow
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and for you PAL....I decided why do I need any of that when your camped rite next to me.ill keep my camper clean and sand up yours...lol.plus mine is no smoking allowed so non of you guys wanna be in there anyway.

 
the Air 360 isn't that good of a offair antenna.  For internet you will need to buy the inside router. Yes the booster works great for the data card and wifi in RV parks.  I sell and install all that stuff. If you want TV off of cell service it is very hit or mis in Glamis.  Off weekends no problem.  I was streaming on pad 4 for the past week with my cell phone booster setup. 

 
Brian Machnach said:
looking at buying the new winged air 360+ with the gateway 4G router any body have have this set up and how well you think it will work in the dunes or for boondocks camping in the desert? my TH is a 2013 keystone fusion and has the old crank up antenna.was looking at the satellite setups but the dude at camping world said don't bother as the satellite is going out and a lot of rv companys  are turning to this set up but I see it needs 12 v power.im all set up for satellite prep and i can reuse my coax on roof but for me to get 12 volts up to the roof looks like a pain in the azz.but rite on the wall is a carbon monoxide detector with 12 volts and battery backup.then about 10'' away on my ceiling is my crank for the old antenna. was thinking I can take the 12 volt in wall run it a little higher then out of top wall across ceiling in a channel then up into the crank hole and to the air 360.then just run the detector on the 9 volt battery it takes.dont really watch a lot of tv more for the kids.what do you guys recommend for getting service and about using the 12 volts rite there?he then said to get a fire stick with this and it will be a sick set up.
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If anyone (kids) is expecting or depending on having something to reliably watch that isn't on a DVD or pre-downloaded before you arrive then you need satellite in G. The guy at camping world might be talking about RVers that go everywhere besides the dunes, but having teleworked through busy weekends and off weekends and everything in between, anything cell related is a nonstarter in G and that goes for all carriers, just not reliable on busy weekends. If it has to be reliable while at G then you need to go the satellite route. @Squatcher is the man for all that stuff and practically lives at G :cheers:

 
Here is an alternative ... If you want movies etc.

In my New Moho I cut all the crap out and put a portable PLEX server in. Easiest thing ever and all my 3000 movies and TV shows (assuming you have DVDs or Blu Ray you can rip or MP4 movies you acquire ... are all there I even get to play my Glamis vids.

I got a WD Wifi enabled Passport Pro  = it runs a Plex Server has a 4TB hard drive 8 hour battery (you recharge through USB) built in WIfi and you don't do anything but turn it (after you load up your movies) it also automatically pulls the movies I make off the SD card from the GoPros for rides we do during the day and adds them to my Plex Server.  My laptop, ipad and iphone all have Plex clients and wifi and My TV's in Moho have cheap streaming sticks ($20 each) with Plex Client  - the WD supports 8 clients simultaneously.   If using ipad to watch movies I don't even need to fire up the Genny or anything 

Its not for everyone - buts its pretty incredible  for almost no $$

there are some you tubes how to do this in an RV - they are  not great  so I might just record one - but they give you an idea how it works

https://www.amazon.com/Passport-Wireless-Portable-external-Drive/dp/B06X6H1LY6/ref=sr_1_3?crid=7C7BT85OQU30&dchild=1&keywords=western+digital+wireless+external+hard+drive&qid=1634344216&sprefix=western+digital+wireless%2Caps%2C223&sr=8-3

The other alternative is that if you have ad-free subs to HoBO Max and Disney+ you can download movies and watch them without Internet

If you want good "internet" at the dunes  - good luck with anything including boosters  - I went down that road and most people said "don't bother" unless you camp in the same place all the time and place that gets good signal ...

I have a hard enought time getting phone/text service

 
Fullthrottleguy said:
Here is an alternative ... If you want movies etc.

In my New Moho I cut all the crap out and put a portable PLEX server in. Easiest thing ever and all my 3000 movies and TV shows (assuming you have DVDs or Blu Ray you can rip or MP4 movies you acquire ... are all there I even get to play my Glamis vids.

I got a WD Wifi enabled Passport Pro  = it runs a Plex Server has a 4TB hard drive 8 hour battery (you recharge through USB) built in WIfi and you don't do anything but turn it (after you load up your movies) it also automatically pulls the movies I make off the SD card from the GoPros for rides we do during the day and adds them to my Plex Server.  My laptop, ipad and iphone all have Plex clients and wifi and My TV's in Moho have cheap streaming sticks ($20 each) with Plex Client  - the WD supports 8 clients simultaneously.   If using ipad to watch movies I don't even need to fire up the Genny or anything 

Its not for everyone - buts its pretty incredible  for almost no $$

there are some you tubes how to do this in an RV - they are  not great  so I might just record one - but they give you an idea how it works

https://www.amazon.com/Passport-Wireless-Portable-external-Drive/dp/B06X6H1LY6/ref=sr_1_3?crid=7C7BT85OQU30&dchild=1&keywords=western+digital+wireless+external+hard+drive&qid=1634344216&sprefix=western+digital+wireless%2Caps%2C223&sr=8-3

The other alternative is that if you have ad-free subs to HoBO Max and Disney+ you can download movies and watch them without Internet

If you want good "internet" at the dunes  - good luck with anything including boosters  - I went down that road and most people said "don't bother" unless you camp in the same place all the time and place that gets good signal ...

I have a hard enought time getting phone/text service
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What are using to digitize your DVDs, Blu-ray disc, etc to get on your Plex server?  Are you able to get movies that you have from movies anywhere, Google Play,etc on your plex library? 

 
LegitDuner said:
What are using to digitize your DVDs, Blu-ray disc, etc to get on your Plex server?  Are you able to get movies that you have from movies anywhere, Google Play,etc on your plex library? 
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"I" have DVD's I ripped on my Mac  using Handbrake (harder) or Mac Ripper (easy)  ....

My Buddies get them already ripped from their " buddies" with Plex and other media servers or off the internet - they just drive over plug in the drive and grab hundreds of movies ...and "others" rip them form Netflix DVDs using Mac Ripper .... or use 4K video downloader to pull movies from you tube, that all on a Mac ..but I cannot condone that practice of course

Similar SW on Windows and maybe even faster transcoding on a PC

the WD works best with MP4 movies - so I convert everything nt MP4 to MP4 to make them play better

 
I do something similar. I use regular WD portable HDDs loaded with movies or TV shows and plug them into an Android TV box. If I do have internet, they have Terrarium TV, Fubo, etc loaded on them, in addition to Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu, etc. I like the TV boxes with 3 or 4 USB ports. I plug a wireless mouse into 1 port to navigate and 1 or 2 WD HDDs into it. I also have a cheap wireless router that they connect to so they can see each other. With 1 box in the living room area and 1 box in the bedroom area, each TV box can either play from the local HDDs or from the other TV box's HDDs. What's nice about these is they can play any video format, including H.264 and higher compression H.265 format videos with no hassles. Windows PCs and other devices can sometimes have trouble with the newer H.265. This isn't the latest tech, I've been using these since about 2014 and never upgraded since they just work.

 
Fullthrottleguy said:
Here is an alternative ... If you want movies etc.

In my New Moho I cut all the crap out and put a portable PLEX server in. Easiest thing ever and all my 3000 movies and TV shows (assuming you have DVDs or Blu Ray you can rip or MP4 movies you acquire ... are all there I even get to play my Glamis vids.

I got a WD Wifi enabled Passport Pro  = it runs a Plex Server has a 4TB hard drive 8 hour battery (you recharge through USB) built in WIfi and you don't do anything but turn it (after you load up your movies) it also automatically pulls the movies I make off the SD card from the GoPros for rides we do during the day and adds them to my Plex Server.  My laptop, ipad and iphone all have Plex clients and wifi and My TV's in Moho have cheap streaming sticks ($20 each) with Plex Client  - the WD supports 8 clients simultaneously.   If using ipad to watch movies I don't even need to fire up the Genny or anything 

Its not for everyone - buts its pretty incredible  for almost no $$

there are some you tubes how to do this in an RV - they are  not great  so I might just record one - but they give you an idea how it works

https://www.amazon.com/Passport-Wireless-Portable-external-Drive/dp/B06X6H1LY6/ref=sr_1_3?crid=7C7BT85OQU30&dchild=1&keywords=western+digital+wireless+external+hard+drive&qid=1634344216&sprefix=western+digital+wireless%2Caps%2C223&sr=8-3

The other alternative is that if you have ad-free subs to HoBO Max and Disney+ you can download movies and watch them without Internet

If you want good "internet" at the dunes  - good luck with anything including boosters  - I went down that road and most people said "don't bother" unless you camp in the same place all the time and place that gets good signal ...

I have a hard enought time getting phone/text service
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The boosters I install for sure work for phone and text. Data gets sketchy when the towers get overloaded but I always have my phone in text messages.

 
Squatcher said:
The boosters I install for sure work for phone and text. Data gets sketchy when the towers get overloaded but I always have my phone in text messages.
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I am considering a booster, just for text and voice but in an early thread you said you need to have "some signal" my Verizon most of the time gets no bars so I think I would be SOL even with a booster on busy weekends  - but I likely will hit you up for one 

 
Lord of the Dunes said:
I do something similar. I use regular WD portable HDDs loaded with movies or TV shows and plug them into an Android TV box. If I do have internet, they have Terrarium TV, Fubo, etc loaded on them, in addition to Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu, etc. I like the TV boxes with 3 or 4 USB ports. I plug a wireless mouse into 1 port to navigate and 1 or 2 WD HDDs into it. I also have a cheap wireless router that they connect to so they can see each other. With 1 box in the living room area and 1 box in the bedroom area, each TV box can either play from the local HDDs or from the other TV box's HDDs. What's nice about these is they can play any video format, including H.264 and higher compression H.265 format videos with no hassles. Windows PCs and other devices can sometimes have trouble with the newer H.265. This isn't the latest tech, I've been using these since about 2014 and never upgraded since they just work.
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I started that way ...it was just too complex to keep all those "plates spinning" and using all that power. the WD has its own battery - so no powering wireless routers and TV boxes.

Its true that unless the "box" has a big enough processor you are not going to be able to transcode on the fly (change video formats for performance and compatibility)  You should see the "mess" I have at home ...

I do have Roku express 4K streaming sticks (they were $22 each) on the TVs to play plex when I use the TV's  so if I have Internet I get Netflix etc and they have voice remotes so search and navigation is so simple,and we always have our Laptops too.

 
Fullthrottleguy said:
I am considering a booster, just for text and voice but in an early thread you said you need to have "some signal" my Verizon most of the time gets no bars so I think I would be SOL even with a booster on busy weekends  - but I likely will hit you up for one 
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Come by my rig anytime and you could just check your phone right then and there. I know I've been on pad 1 before and not get any phone calls. Turn my booster on and I was streaming online. I do customize the boosters so if you ever have a question let me know

 
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