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If you're the moderator, simply put a stop to it...if you re not too busy sucking up to/protecting those who: 1) don't like to be questioned and 2) know that they can get away with crying about others who rightfully challenge whether the truth is being told or not. It's your job if you're not...

...and just for the xyz(ers) not necessarily understanding the above: The 'tough' questions aren't those simply asked and then eagerly lapped up/accepted whether they make sense or not. Most of the time in today's world...sorry xyz(ers)...it is the follow up question which really pisses the...

Dealers...or those who inhabit forums spreading the exact opposite of what dealers are saying. We all did by very simply contacting our local dealers...before believing those inhabiting forums...wait for it...spreading the exact opposite of what dealers are saying. Believe it or not, you are...

My experience to date of (apparently) being the only one who will simply come out and admit that they've put down a deposit. (keep it/sell it/who knows; this is only what I've been told by multiple dealers contacted ): > Dealers are saying that they only have a limited amount of dates to order...

I just read exactly what you said (see above) and challenged both you and anyone else to make any real sense of it. I also gave you a pass at least once for you possibly being the victim of intentionally spread bullshit. "...available to purchase in January or December" is just that. A car...

Also found a dealer charging just under $900 for everything plus tax for a Z10 at MSRP. From what I was told, their markup on these cars is about what one would expect at this price point (not much). This long stretch of time before delivery will build a lot of new business for smaller dealers...

If it were 'only' World War 3...both we and a good share of the rest of the free world might not be defending Israel in the first place...had not one son been sent to die for us with a message partly predicting exactly what Israel is going through at this very moment. Praying for you, brother.

The story here would seem to be exactly how much was fired at the base in total. How military assets and infrastructure were attacked let alone protected is unfortunately any country's main concern over what the media promotes or citizens may feel. If you can't fight or sustain the fight then...

Imagine that. Sounds as if folks aren't receiving the full story regarding deliveries of more than one UTV related product nowadays...

...double down here, NIKAL..December deliveries of the Z10...or not so much??? How about CFMOTO dealer's ability to even order Z10s...when???

I see Ni I see the same guy laughing at your premise (NIKAL)...who just got through insisting that we would see the Z10 in showrooms by December. I just got through talking to another CFMOTO dealer who insisted that he would not be able to even order a Z10 until after the first of the year with...

A few comments on this release: 1) Not a single person will admit to having a deposit down on either of these cars. 2) Ditto for anyone being curious enough to confirm that at least some dealers are claiming that they cannot even order one today or at anytime this month or next.. 3) Even more...

I heard that this morning and thought that they said "pool shooters" as his being friends with "school shooters" could obviously not be immediately processed by my brain. I was more disappointed in Vance fumbling all over himself to shockingly agree with Harris/Waltz on multiple occasions for...

Don't quote me yet I heard today that they are holding out for 87% and no automation (period) after being offered...wait for it...50%. Someone also said that not a single port in the U.S. is in the top 50 in the world in terms of efficiency. I can't even comment beyond that for obvious reasons.

...and if you're a SPEED devotee trying to figure out what just happened with whatever this sale or deal was all about(?) I would be expecting an even longer wait given the above and whatever CF/Kawi splash in to the pool with next.

Two things to also consider: 1) Kawi released that video a long time ago (with much fanfare) and not a peep from them since. 2) CF just did the same thing with just as much fanfare or more...not a peep from them since...'plus'...dealers presently telling depositors that it 'may' be April of next...

It's going be a matter of how your timeline and bank account rules these purchases over the next few years for sure. No doubt that Kawi will have the opportunity to play a huge role given how the top 2 have somewhat pulled back in '24/'25. March/April deliveries not being disputed by CF for even...

I thought that they said 1 year but could be wrong. We might need to keep in mind that this machine is a different monster engineered differently than any other CF product previous by seasoned former competitors working to create something unique. We'll also be looking at what the new factory in...

To me, all of this just adds more intrigue to ever predicting any direction that CF might go with these more premium cars. I think a lot of us assume (right or wrong) that they will not innovate drive or motor-wise in any shocking manner given their first foray in to obviously keeping the price...

Agreed given the state of the game both immediately after his ban and even more so today.