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these were police chases where most of the guys got away. what happens the next day if they have a lic plate number and then a residences' address?
some chases of up to 160/170 mph!
 
The challenge of identifying the driver becomes the problem.

Better to "cooperate" and have a great alibi lined up, something "confirmable".
 
Yep. If they can't confirm the driver, they can't confirm the foul.
 
As was stated, driver identification is the primary issue at hand and the secondary is obviously a lot of people don't update their address on their registration etc. So locating them is always a challenge as well. . Did you have a more specific question?
 
GlamisBatman said:
As was stated, driver identification is the primary issue at hand and the secondary is obviously a lot of people don't update their address on their registration etc. So locating them is always a challenge as well. . Did you have a more specific question?
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i only see the chase and the get away from the video, just wondered how far they would go to "go to the persons home" etc i just never hear the aftermath
 
rivermobster said:
Yep. If they can't confirm the driver, they can't confirm the foul.
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Unless you are in Havasu then they just kinda make shit up as they go along..

i got to take my journey through the jungle of our legal system last year for a bunch of shit I wasn’t even present for.. meaning I wasn’t even in the car when it happened.

I just happened to own the car.

For those saying there’s static later, I will say my experience with that was different. Expensively different.

RD
 
RiverDave said:
Unless you are in Havasu then they just kinda make shit up as they go along..

i got to take my journey through the jungle of our legal system last year for a bunch of shit I wasn’t even present for.. meaning I wasn’t even in the car when it happened.

I just happened to own the car.

For those saying there’s static later, I will say my experience with that was different. Expensively different.

RD
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And den...? Detail Chachi.
 
I watch a lot of Police chases. Most often they do follow up and successfully get a conviction as technology helps out more than we are aware.
 
Full disclosure: I never ran, but several times I was amazed I found my driveway.
And yes, this was "Way Before" self driving cars.
 
I am gonna make a long story slightly less long..

I don’t drink and drive. I have had private limos and even a party bus. kids on the payroll, I have camel tow on speed dial to tow my truck home for 100.00. I just don’t do it. It just isn’t worth the fucking headache in the modern world.

So that said rewind a bit here.. I’m one of the first guys to have a speed car in Havasu. At the time there was maybe four in town so everyone was really curious about them.

It’s Friday and I went off-roading for a bit with a friend of mine.. when we are done I run down to the mavericks and grab a bunch of beer and smokes etc.. it’s 7:00 pm at this time.

Head back to the house and I am drinking in the garage with some friends.

Around 9:00 pm the texts are coming in that there is a huge bonfire up at bison flats and we should come up there. I’m probably 10+ beers in at this point so I’m not driving shit. A friend comes over with his chick and he says he will drive.

We take the car to bison cooler loaded etc.. we get up there and people are asking to go for a ride in the car or drive the car.. I’m pretty open about it so sure go ahead. Just don’t beat on it like a red headed stepchild.

In total that night about seven different people drove the car.. most of them just took a quick lap around bison flats for a minute or two.

Well this guy came up and hit me up to go drive it, I don’t know this guy but a friend kinda vouched for the guy.. he takes off and runs down the hill and is gone for I dunno maybe a beer or beer and a half by my clock.

He gets back and it comes out that he was gonna go hit a liquor store for something and had gotten rolled and decided he would just run back up the hill. As it was described to me he was super close to the trailhead so he just turned around and hit the dirt and was gone..

So I’m sitting there kinda assessing the situation and the car is new so there’s no license plate on it.. it’s a factory wrap and nothing with my brand on it.. that said it’s a rare car for havasu.

I decide I'm not gonna take any chances so I decide my buddy and I are gonna drive the car to a friends place that’s nowhere near the entrance to bison flats Offroad. Ditch the car and have my limo pick me and my buddy up and go home where we continue drinking the night away.

Around 6-7 am there’s banging in my garage door so I open it and there’s the cops.. “where’s the car?” I explain that I am not going to answer any questions.. “come outside we want to talk to you”. (My biggest mistake was walking outside, shoulda just closed the garage door at that point.

I walk outside they hook me up and take me to jail. I spent the night in the clink..

DA looks at the case and drops it due to lack of evidence. (This is county because they handle felonies).

Ok no worries.. city attorney picks up the case and files all the charges again? wtf?

She cites that a cop had seen me drive the car at 7pm to the mavericks while he was filling out paperwork across the street. I said you are right he probably did see me.

Here is a VIDEO of the car leaving my house later that night with me getting in the passenger seat? Which kinda removes any thoughts that it couldn’t be someone else later?

Nope the cops googled speed and the number on the side of the car and saw a pic of you and claims it was you driving the car..

Stop and think about that for a second.

Ok now that you have thought about it, the cops googled speed saw “someone” for less than a half a second that was white with brown hair and wearing glasses.

I’m white.. I always wear a hat, and don’t wear glasses unless I’m reading.

Anyhow there is a reason they use line ups, and multiple photographs to identify for witnesses because if you show one person suddenly that becomes the person they saw..

So 10k for the lawyer and here we go.. he writes a giant dismissal letter etc etc.. city atty says they are pressing on more or less because “it’s me” but they are offering up what is called a DEG.
Deferred entry of guilt.. what that means is the whole case gets set aside and if you don’t get in trouble for 12 months they just throw it in the trash.

I’m uber pissed because now I have gone to jail for something I didn’t even do..

Long talk with lawyer he says the case is weak and anticipates innocent verdict but there are no guarantees with juries..

His major concern it’s Mohave county. Meaning everyone is fuck the government but they are crazy “back the blue”. He recommends I take the deg, but is very confident in trial.

I took the DEG just because it was a certainty on the outcome. As well this could get crazy expensive going to trial in which case I’m gonna have to sue to get the $$ back etc.

That said the cops get their badge in a Cracker Jack box in Havasu. I had several of my friends and coworkers harassed over the following weeks by detectives trying to get them to say it was me.. half these people weren’t even there that night?

The guy that vouched for the particular person is a big name shop in havasu. I won’t use his shop anymore because his fuckwad buddy literally just absolved himself of any liability.

Some say I shoulda told the cops who he is.. I wasn’t raised that way.

Anyhow there’s your story on static after the fact..

I could go on as to how the cop that was in the initial Chase was down in Parker the next weekend bragging to his friends and showing them video that he chased RiverDave etc.. and a whole host of shit to go with it.

I wasn’t even in the car when it happened. I often wonder if I made the right choice not to goto trial because the whole thing still pisses me off.

Seeing the cops lie their asses off. Going down to the police station to try to get a copy of the video which they wouldn’t give to me.. the whole thing was a very odd experience and completely destroyed my confidence in our local law enforcement.

They actually wanted me to goto arraignment with zero discovery etc.. that was about the time I called the lawyer.

I dunno if I made the right decision or not.. at the time I took certainty over unknown, but like I said it still makes my blood boil.. even typing this post made me angry.

RD
 
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What did they charge you with? It couldn't have been DUI, because the cops saw you drinking in your garage right? I wrecked my first Harley one night while I was pretty tuned up. I was able to get away from the scene, and I was dropped off at the hospital. As they are scrubbing the asphalt out of me and stitching me up everywhere (no pain meds because I am drunk), cops come in and start the questioning. At first I just denied it was me, said a buddy borrowed the bike, they weren't buying it. Finally I said, look, I crashed the bike, as you can see I'm in a lot of paint, so I stopped by the house before I came to the hospital and drank a fifth of whiskey. There was no way to prove I was drunk and riding as they were not on scene. I did get hit with leaving the scene of a injury accident, but I told the judge it was me who was injured (single vehicle crash), and that I only left to get to the hospital. Judge told me I got lucky this time
 
RiverDave said:
I am gonna make a long story slightly less long..

I don’t drink and drive. I have had private limos and even a party bus. kids on the payroll, I have camel tow on speed dial to tow my truck home for 100.00. I just don’t do it. It just isn’t worth the fucking headache in the modern world.

So that said rewind a bit here.. I’m one of the first guys to have a speed car in Havasu. At the time there was maybe four in town so everyone was really curious about them.

It’s Friday and I went off-roading for a bit with a friend of mine.. when we are done I run down to the mavericks and grab a bunch of beer and smokes etc.. it’s 7:00 pm at this time.

Head back to the house and I am drinking in the garage with some friends.

Around 9:00 pm the texts are coming in that there is a huge bonfire up at bison flats and we should come up there. I’m probably 10+ beers in at this point so I’m not driving shit. A friend comes over with his chick and he says he will drive.

We take the car to bison cooler loaded etc.. we get up there and people are asking to go for a ride in the car or drive the car.. I’m pretty open about it so sure go ahead. Just don’t beat on it like a red headed stepchild.

In total that night about seven different people drove the car.. most of them just took a quick lap around bison flats for a minute or two.

Well this guy came up and hit me up to go drive it, I don’t know this guy but a friend kinda vouched for the guy.. he takes off and runs down the hill and is gone for I dunno maybe a beer or beer and a half by my clock.

He gets back and it comes out that he was gonna go hit a liquor store for something and had gotten rolled and decided he would just run back up the hill. As it was described to me he was super close to the trailhead so he just turned around and hit the dirt and was gone..

So I’m sitting there kinda assessing the situation and the car is new so there’s no license plate on it.. it’s a factory wrap and nothing with my brand on it.. that said it’s a rare car for havasu.

I decide I'm not gonna take any chances so I decide my buddy and I are gonna drive the car to a friends place that’s nowhere near the entrance to bison flats Offroad. Ditch the car and have my limo pick me and my buddy up and go home where we continue drinking the night away.

Around 6-7 am there’s banging in my garage door so I open it and there’s the cops.. “where’s the car?” I explain that I am not going to answer any questions.. “come outside we want to talk to you”. (My biggest mistake was walking outside, shoulda just closed the garage door at that point.

I walk outside they hook me up and take me to jail. I spent the night in the clink..

DA looks at the case and drops it due to lack of evidence. (This is county because they handle felonies).

Ok no worries.. city attorney picks up the case and files all the charges again? wtf?

She cites that a cop had seen me drive the car at 7pm to the mavericks while he was filling out paperwork across the street. I said you are right he probably did see me.

Here is a VIDEO of the car leaving my house later that night with me getting in the passenger seat? Which kinda removes any thoughts that it couldn’t be someone else later?

Nope the cops googled speed and the number on the side of the car and saw a pic of you and claims it was you driving the car..

Stop and think about that for a second.

Ok now that you have thought about it, the cops googled speed saw “someone” for less than a half a second that was white with brown hair and wearing glasses.

I’m white.. I always wear a hat, and don’t wear glasses unless I’m reading.

Anyhow there is a reason they use line ups, and multiple photographs to identify for witnesses because if you show one person suddenly that becomes the person they saw..

So 10k for the lawyer and here we go.. he writes a giant dismissal letter etc etc.. city atty says they are pressing on more or less because “it’s me” but they are offering up what is called a DEG.
Deferred entry of guilt.. what that means is the whole case gets set aside and if you don’t get in trouble for 12 months they just throw it in the trash.

I’m uber pissed because now I have gone to jail for something I didn’t even do..

Long talk with lawyer he says the case is weak and anticipates innocent verdict but there are no guarantees with juries..

His major concern it’s Mohave county. Meaning everyone is fuck the government but they are crazy “back the blue”. He recommends I take the deg, but is very confident in trial.

I took the DEG just because it was a certainty on the outcome. As well this could get crazy expensive going to trial in which case I’m gonna have to sue to get the $$ back etc.

That said the cops get their badge in a Cracker Jack box in Havasu. I had several of my friends and coworkers harassed over the following weeks by detectives trying to get them to say it was me.. half these people weren’t even there that night?

The guy that vouched for the particular person is a big name shop in havasu. I won’t use his shop anymore because his fuckwad buddy literally just absolved himself of any liability.

Some say I shoulda told the cops who he is.. I wasn’t raised that way.

Anyhow there’s your story on static after the fact..

I could go on as to how the cop that was in the initial Chase was down in Parker the next weekend bragging to his friends and showing them video that he chased RiverDave etc.. and a whole host of shit to go with it.

I wasn’t even in the car when it happened. I often wonder if I made the right choice not to goto trial because the whole thing still pisses me off.

Seeing the cops lie their asses off. Going down to the police station to try to get a copy of the video which they wouldn’t give to me.. the whole thing was a very odd experience and completely destroyed my confidence in our local law enforcement.

They actually wanted me to goto arraignment with zero discovery etc.. that was about the time I called the lawyer.

I dunno if I made the right decision or not.. at the time I took certainty over unknown, but like I said it still makes my blood boil.. even typing this post made me angry.

RD
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That guy that drove yore SPEED didn't own up? what a POS that douchebag is and his buddy that vouched for him.

Own up or pay up, that driver needs to make you right $$
 
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