Smallest toy hauler that would still fit a Funco Gen4.

And talking to a couple of different guys that used to work for us and did all of our diesel work. After getting all the info from them I'm going to stay away from a Chevy and buy a Dodge. Stick with the 6.7. just have to be careful of the aluminum injector pump on the 2019 and 2020 trucks. Probably go with a 3500 single rear wheel. Would like to find the exact weight ratings on the ww le3505. I am assuming I will be fine to hook that up to a srw late model Dodge truck 3500.
 
So I found some info on the weekend warrior le3505. So let's say I load this thing to the gills at 16,000 lb gross weight. Who knows what the pin weight would be. Could I get away with a newer Dodge or Ford diesel 3500 single rear wheel or would I be better to go to a dual rear wheel. Everything I'm reading seems like that is right at about the breaking point. I've read a lot of guys towing with single but a lot of them say they've done dual and it tows so much better and is safer. One of our guys that used to work for us I was talking to him tonight and he said the newer Ford trucks especially 2018 and 2019 are really good. They are a little priceier but yet I would have a higher budget buying an older weekend warrior.
 

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Buy the Ford dually and don't look back. It's the best truck on the market. The WW 3505 is a great trailer but heavy as shit. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
 
Getting closer to figuring this out. Found my trailer. WW CR3905. 4 feet longer than the LE3505 and 1350 lbs heavier. This link from JD power says this trailer is 11,600 lbs dry. I can't seem to find anywhere the carrying capacity and hope it is 6000 lbs like the LE3505. What a neat trailer. optional up to 2 slides. They are small though. One for the couch and one for the bedroom closet area. But I think would make all the difference in the world. 16' to the slide so perfect for the Funco with 1'3" to spare. Going in the morning to drive a new 3500 Chevy Duramax dually. I like it has a 100,000 mile powertrain warranty on it. LT more of a base model is 74k plus tax and fees. I see several nice cr3905s with 2 slides for $25-32k. This would keep me under my $125k budget. Only thing I am wondering is if I could buy another diesel pusher with a light aluminum enclosed box trailer for my wifes little Audi TT with that same budget. I am guessing an all aluminum box trailer 20' would be 25k. That leaves 100k for a used pusher. If we were traveling and stopping at campsites it seems like it would be a PITA with a trailer and pulling a car in and out. Just need to think about this a little more and research.
 

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Just talked with my wife and a moho and trailer will not be an option. We have some really cool electric off road bikes and need to be able to throw them in the truck and go explore. Bought her a Bakcou mule 2025 series. It is the number one electric bike sold to hunters the last two years running. I bought a Pedego electric elevate.
 
Pedego decided to get out of the mountain bikes and are currently having a closeout on the Elevate model. Great components and blowout pricing so good I could not say no.
 
Hondajimz said:
Buy the Ford dually and don't look back. It's the best truck on the market. The WW 3505 is a great trailer but heavy as shit. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
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I'm a diehard GM guy, but..

The company I work for builds industrial equipment on the F550. These trucks are amazing.

Not sure I'd drive a dodge truck if someone just gave it to me. Dash would probably fall off and break my knee cap...
 
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Getting closer to figuring this out. Found my trailer. WW CR3905. 4 feet longer than the LE3505 and 1350 lbs heavier. This link from JD power says this trailer is 11,600 lbs dry. I can't seem to find anywhere the carrying capacity and hope it is 6000 lbs like the LE3505. What a neat trailer. optional up to 2 slides. They are small though. One for the couch and one for the bedroom closet area. But I think would make all the difference in the world. 16' to the slide so perfect for the Funco with 1'3" to spare.
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Don't forget that published weights from WW back in those days were optimistic at best. Going from a 'basic' LE series to a typically more heavily optioned CR is going to take away from the carrying capacity since almost all the 5ers of that timeframe were 16k GVWR (partly because most pickups in that era couldn't "legally" carry trailers much larger than 16k). Best bet is going to be a trip to the scale with whatever trailer you're looking at to get hard numbers. With a dually tow rig, you can essentially pull anything in this segment.

Here's a chart from the old website showing '09 models for reference:
Take note of the disclaimer at the bottom
 
onanysunday said:
Getting closer to figuring this out. Found my trailer. WW CR3905. 4 feet longer than the LE3505 and 1350 lbs heavier. This link from JD power says this trailer is 11,600 lbs dry. I can't seem to find anywhere the carrying capacity and hope it is 6000 lbs like the LE3505. What a neat trailer. optional up to 2 slides. They are small though. One for the couch and one for the bedroom closet area. But I think would make all the difference in the world. 16' to the slide so perfect for the Funco with 1'3" to spare. Going in the morning to drive a new 3500 Chevy Duramax dually. I like it has a 100,000 mile powertrain warranty on it. LT more of a base model is 74k plus tax and fees. I see several nice cr3905s with 2 slides for $25-32k. This would keep me under my $125k budget. Only thing I am wondering is if I could buy another diesel pusher with a light aluminum enclosed box trailer for my wifes little Audi TT with that same budget. I am guessing an all aluminum box trailer 20' would be 25k. That leaves 100k for a used pusher. If we were traveling and stopping at campsites it seems like it would be a PITA with a trailer and pulling a car in and out. Just need to think about this a little more and research.
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I had a 2007 WW 3905 (single slide in the bedroom) before I purchased my Genesis, great setup and that floor plan set the precedence that most of today's 5th wheels utilize. Great storage inside and out and plenty of cargo space. Just know that you will need to maintain it, these rigs are getting old and although built well they are all wood construction and mileage beats up everything.
If you can find a 2008 that was the best year for these rigs, the roof design was better than the 2007's......2009 was the last year for WW so you have to wonder at what point that year did the workers know the end was near and when and where did they start to cut corners or be disgruntle!!!
 
honEXduner said:
Don't forget that published weights from WW back in those days were optimistic at best. Going from a 'basic' LE series to a typically more heavily optioned CR is going to take away from the carrying capacity since almost all the 5ers of that timeframe were 16k GVWR (partly because most pickups in that era couldn't "legally" carry trailers much larger than 16k). Best bet is going to be a trip to the scale with whatever trailer you're looking at to get hard numbers. With a dually tow rig, you can essentially pull anything in this segment.

Here's a chart from the old website showing '09 models for reference:
Take note of the disclaimer at the bottom
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Thanks for this. Just what I was worried about. Payload is only 4,400 lb. Whereas payload for the 3505 is 5750. So the 3905 won't work.
 
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I remember reading and hearing about the sagging wall problems with these trailers. Never really knew how or what was going on. Just watched this and looks to be the correct way to fix the issues. But damn that's a lot of work. I would have no problem tackling this project myself but not something you're doing in a day for sure. Can anything ever be easy?
 
Or just find something like this where the roof and wall sagging has all been addressed. Make life easier. I would assume there are different levels of competency in the wall sag repairs done on some of these trailers. Now I know how to inspect it. https://www.facebook.com/share/15Asad2XouC/ so is this a warranty issue that ww was repairing. Or was it just aftermarket people doing it? Certainly seems like there's lots of info to research on it.
 
Something else I am thinking about. I run flex fuel in my buggy and there are not a lot of stations that carry it. The Chevron that is the closest to my house does not have access for me to pull a truck and trailer of this size in and fill a fuel station in the trailer. So I was wondering using the Chevy truck as an example if I could squeeze an 80 gallon tank into the bed of the truck.
 

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Whole lot of questions that would need to be answered. I know I would want an 80 to 100 gallon tank. A toolbox would be nice as well. Then obviously the fifth wheel hitch. And maybe this makes a difference on what size bed you get to squeeze it all in there.
 
I think on that year you still have to worry about the troublesome CP4 pump.
 
You have to worry about high pressure pump failure on the L5P also but at least on the Ford you can install a bypass kit or upgrade the pump to a DCR. I don't think that's possible on the Chevy
 
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You have to worry about high pressure pump failure on the L5P also but at least on the Ford you can install a bypass kit or upgrade the pump to a DCR. I don't think that's possible on the Chevy
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Have the L5P pumps been troublesome? They do not have the CP4 - use a Denso pump IIRC
 
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Thanks for this. Just what I was worried about. Payload is only 4,400 lb. Whereas payload for the 3505 is 5750. So the 3905 won't work.
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You're welcome - keep in mind, that 4400# number is for a standard feature unit.

Listed elsewhere on the site is the options list and guess what common options are not included in those base weights:
  • Huge 5.5 kw Generator w/ 30 gal Gas Tank
  • 40 gal Gas Tank w/ Pump Station*
  • Spare Tire / Rim / Mount, 15" (16" for some model)
  • Dinette Slide Out (cargo area)
Also, don't forget the 150gal of water (1200#) and possibly 70gal of gasoline (420#) if you want to roll fully filled, as those values are not included either.

If you're attempting to go by the letter of the ratings, those older WW trailers are tough due to how the numbers work out. There's a reason most of the newer 40'+ trailers are 18-21k GVWR with similar layouts and equipment to the WW of old.
 
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